Pit concealment

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Pit concealment

Postby jmh600 » Wed May 14, 2014 4:20 pm

We have some pits in the middle of some bean fields and we usually leave some beans around the pit for concealment and food. We are planning on planting corn around the pits (in the bean field) for better concealment and more food. We have a 2 row planter to plant these small strips of corn. What's the best strategy to go about planting this? Do laps around the pit to make a circle of corn or would you do long strips to make the pit blend in better? Maybe I'm over thinking it. Anybody else do this?
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby Anatidae » Wed May 14, 2014 6:42 pm

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Blind is in center of circle

The slash is so ducks won't land behind the blind regardless of wind direction.

Place decoys on outside of circle to simulate real conditions
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby Northbigmuddy » Wed May 14, 2014 7:37 pm

^Do This^

We had a few solid smiling mallard hunts out of a similar set up
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby jmh600 » Thu May 15, 2014 12:06 pm

Not all of us can go to canada every year... Thanks for the help..
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby Anatidae » Thu May 15, 2014 8:31 pm

Sorry - couldn't resist.

I try to maximize my opportunities at home, too. 'Don't know if what you propose is worth the trouble. Maybe someone else will share their first-hand experience with you.

I guess what you do depends on how it affects the farmer's interests.....i.e. planting, applications and harvest. I would think 'strips' would be easiest to work around.

I've seen standing corn become 'roost' material - they leave during the day and feed on it after dark. So food value is probably useless for attracting something during legal hours.

For cover I would think planting around the blind would just call more attention to something 'un-natural' or in this case, 'un-mechanized'. It'll get tromped down during the season with dog and foot traffic.

So, my opinion would be to forget about corn for cover and food unless your pits are close enough to benefit from planting strips in the whole 1/4 sections (like 4 combine passes apart) - again, depending on how it affects farmer's practices.

Caution: Don't ride corn down with the 4-wheeler. :mrgreen:
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby jmh600 » Thu May 15, 2014 9:00 pm

Thanks. That's more of the thought process I was looking for. In the off season pit blinds seems like a great idea and then i remember how much I hate them when the season starts. Hell your smiley face layout might be the ticket after all..
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby Northbigmuddy » Fri May 16, 2014 9:41 am

I would recommend seeing what you can and can't do if its not your property as was already mentioned. No use for you to bust your tail on something that's going to be destroyed/sprayed down the road.

I have tried to plant reeds and similar plants that are present on nearby ditch banks to go for the "natural habitat" angle. Establishing aggressive stuff like reeds and cane maybe be unfavorable for the ag side of things and may be out of the question. One simple solution that can have excellent results is to do nothing at all. My pit had about a 30' boarder around it that was not planted in beans. I told my men to stay out of it and don't spray it. It grew up with weeds and looked like a normally overgrown wet spot. We designated one side of the pit as the entrance/exit so as to not trample everything down. We pulled vines and weeds off the ditch bank to stuff the flaps with and the ducks never gave us much attention. You couldn't make out the pit if you were standing in front of it.

BTW I have never hunted in Canada. I still spend more time than I'd like to admit on a 5g bucket hiding from ducks.
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby H20 Fowl » Sat May 17, 2014 6:45 am

Anatidae wrote:For cover I would think planting around the blind would just call more attention to something 'un-natural'

Exactly. Just brush it as you normally would. (Don't use cane)

Folks give birds way too much credit. They are not that smart, just keep movement to a minimum and you wont be able to tell a diffrence.
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby GAHEEL83 » Sun May 18, 2014 12:32 pm

We have hunted successfully out of standing corn rows in beans the last couple of years. We weren't fortunate enough to have a pit out in the bean field though. We simply set up between the rows on Swamp Stools.

My suggestion would be to run the corn rows parallel to the pit.
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby ScottyLee » Sun May 18, 2014 2:24 pm

someone said don't use cane. but cane has always worked fine for me. from stickup blinds to piling in and around layouts, to helping cover a pit without a top. if i want it brown, i just cut it a few days before i need it. but even so on late minute deals where i can't cut it and let it turn brown, never had much of an issue with the green
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby Blackduck » Mon May 19, 2014 8:37 am

The best pit I've ever seen was in the side of a levee. Not a roll top but a Knock down front. The owner planted milo for 50-75 yards on each side of the pit. He put fast grass on the front of the blind/pit. As the season wore on and the milo got darker he would just add more color to the fast grass. Milo is thick. Not too tall and not too short and the color is reproducible with spray paint.
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby H20 Fowl » Mon May 19, 2014 8:51 am

ScottyLee wrote:someone said don't use cane. but cane has always worked fine for me. from stickup blinds to piling in and around layouts, to helping cover a pit without a top. if i want it brown, i just cut it a few days before i need it. but even so on late minute deals where i can't cut it and let it turn brown, never had much of an issue with the green

I've seen an angle cut piece of cane pierce a dogs leg before. That's why I stay away from it.

That and because fast grass is so much easier
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby Greenhead22 » Mon May 19, 2014 8:58 am

You couldn't pay me to use fast grass. Hate it with a passion. :lol:
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Re: Pit concealment

Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Mon May 19, 2014 6:22 pm

A leafy cane can be used in the pit top as a good base. It will turn brown within a week or so. Add on top of it indigenous vegetation in the area of your pit. The cane provides good attachment points for this vegetation, and it holds up throughout the season. Refresh the indigenous vegetation as needed.

Subtle camo that blends in well and provides adequate cover from lots of eyes from above is the goal.

Also, Mossy Oak makes a seed blend for growing cover vegetation at your pit site. I am going to try this for the upcoming season. Gonna sow the seed next to the blind and on all areas of the levee and other high ground nearby that is not farmed.
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