Interesting dove recaptures

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Interesting dove recaptures

Postby Wingman » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:46 am

My recaptures have really picked up in the last couple of days.

Yesterday, out of 19 doves banded, I recaptured 4 that I had banded previously.

The first two recaptures were in the same trap together. The female I banded on July 16, 2013. I caught her again last week.
The male I banded on July 7, 2011. Both were banded as after hatch year birds (AHY) which means they were at least a year old when banded. This means the 2011 bird was at least 4 years old.

I was pretty excited about the 2011 bird, but I've recaptured several birds in the past that I banded 3 years prior.

I checked my traps again a couple hours later and I had two more recaptures. Both were males banded as AHY birds. The first one I banded on August 21, 2010, and recaptured him on 7-25-13 before catching him the third time yesterday! A 5-year old bird! Then I looked up the second bird's number and I flipped so far back in my paperwork that I started over back at the front, thinking I had obviously overlooked it. Surely enough, I flipped back to 2009 and found where I banded him as an AHY on August 8, 2009! A 6-year old dove! I couldn't believe it. The research says 3 0f 10 juvies make it to adulthood, and 50% of adults die each year. Do the math.

I caught this one this morning. Banded as AHY on August 26, 2010. Out of 10 doves this morning, 3 were recaptures.
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Y'all check your doves this fall. Your band info returns mean a lot to the biologists.
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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby teul2 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:01 am

Awesome!
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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby Blackduck » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:30 am

That is pretty specific. That seems like a fairly high percentage of birds returning to the same area.
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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby champcaller » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:59 am

Good stuff!
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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby deltadukman » Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:00 pm

Blackduck wrote:That is pretty specific. That seems like a fairly high percentage of birds returning to the same area.

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Postby novacaine » Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:52 pm

Blackduck wrote:That is pretty specific. That seems like a fairly high percentage of birds returning to the same area.
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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby Deadeye » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:31 pm

Rob, what does a dove trap look like? And how can you tell difference in the gender of a dove?
This is very interesting, thanks for sharing.

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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby JLT » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:55 pm

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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby Wingman » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:51 pm

Deadeye wrote:Rob, what does a dove trap look like? And how can you tell difference in the gender of a dove?
This is very interesting, thanks for sharing.

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2. The male has a pinkish breast and face, the top of his head is gray/blue, and he has a little iridescent patch on the side of his neck.
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The female is basically just dull brown.
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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby LODI QUACKER » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:11 pm

Huh. Interesting stuff.


You hunt anywhere near your banding sites? You think they have left by seasons opener ? Why would so many birds be left over if there is hunting near?
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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby Wingman » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:59 pm

I killed one last year on the last day of third season. It was a dove I'd banded 3 years ago. As of late 2012, I'd had 55 birds killed of the 900 or so I'd banded at that point. Most all returns were from Humphreys County. I might band 200-250 birds a year on a great year. 100-150 is more normal. Before I found my best spot, I was struggling to band 20 a year. I'm recapturing only 10-12 a year; maybe only 3 or 4 from any one year. So of all of the tens of thousands of doves in the area, only a fraction of the ones I've banded have been killed. I imagine most of the rest are dead from natural causes and the band will never be found.

I had one dove banded on 7-31-07, killed in Chiefland, Florida on 9-10-2009. (My only bird killed out of state that I know of.)
One I banded in August of 07 was killed in Madison County that September.
One I banded in August of 09 was killed in Washington County the following September.
One I banded in August of 10 was killed in Hinds County the following September.
Another I banded in August 10 was killed in Washington County in September 12.

Other Mississippi banded doves have been killed in AR, TN, MO, IL, AL, LA, KY, and MI.
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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby Barq's » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:49 pm

Do they have any program that allows individuals to band them or would you have to have your own bands made and keep your own records?
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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby Wingman » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:05 pm

Barq's wrote:Do they have any program that allows individuals to band them or would you have to have your own bands made and keep your own records?
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No. All banding is regulated through the Bird Banding Lab and they are very strict about it.
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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby bigwater » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:15 pm

Thx rob I enjoyed reading that

How long some of those birds live blows
me away

?? You think those birds u recapture migrate
Or hang around the greater humpyreys county area??
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Re: Interesting dove recaptures

Postby Wingman » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:30 pm

Not sure about the migrate part, Biggie.

I know we get migratory birds in the fall, but I assume most of these stay put. I just looked at a sheet of several hundred returns from birds banded all over the state, and only a few dozen were killed out of state.

I'll have to dig a little deeper and see what else I can find.
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