Is war being waged against our law enforcement?

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Is war being waged against our law enforcement?

Postby teul2 » Wed May 20, 2015 8:35 am

This almost seems like this was a trap. Thank god he had a dog.
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Re: Is war being waged against our law enforcement?

Postby cwink » Wed May 20, 2015 8:54 am

I saw that story the other day too and unfortunately I think it will get worse. See this story
http://wreg.com/2015/05/19/mississippi- ... -officers/

In addition to the Tx Biker gangs also calling for hits on police..

I have always been of the opinion that as civilians we should only be defensive minded when it comes to personal protection. But if these types of event continue to happen I think LEO will have to change their tactics and maybe even go to 2 person patrols or at least have backup on scene. That will mean slower response times and we as civilians will have to be prepared for this..

There was an excellent article that I posted to my SafeFire Shooting facebook page today.
http://www.americanrifleman.org/article ... rspective/

The best quote from the article is "The person who hasn't planned and trained can be expected to take the “I can't believe this is happening to me” approach when faced with violence. The trained individual is more likely to take the position of “They told me this could happen and I know just what to do about it.”
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Re: Is war being waged against our law enforcement?

Postby BAY KINGFISHER » Wed May 20, 2015 11:16 am

I am so happy that they had the devices that remotely released the dog installed recently. I woke up to the news of this assault and panicked. My cousin is another of the K9 handlers in Hancock County, and I know he often patrols this same area at night. Todd, the officer who got attacked is a good guy, I am just so happy he survived, and that "Lucas" answered the call when released from the patrol car!! I will say it is really bad that our county doesn't have the funds to equip every patrol car with a dash cam!! Our officers deal with some of the worse element in the world because of our proximity to New Orleans, and we have the major drug corridor in the US, being I-10. The area where the officer was attacked is located in the Stennis Space center buffer zone on "Old Highway 90"; Pearlington being the closest town has no law enforcement other than sheriff patrols. Response time for this area is very slow!!

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Re: Is war being waged against our law enforcement?

Postby mshunter77 » Wed May 20, 2015 11:17 am

No doubt it is time to go to two person patrols. The problem is that most PDs are short handed as it is because not many people want to put up with that kind of crap for low pay.
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Postby Deltamud77 » Wed May 20, 2015 11:29 am

I JPD Officer was randomly shot last week on Northside. There is intel out there about hits on cops by both black gangs as well as white, biker gangs.
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Re: Is war being waged against our law enforcement?

Postby BAY KINGFISHER » Wed May 20, 2015 11:37 am

Quote from linked article:

"We've been stressing this for months and months now. It's no different from last week we get a BOLO from the state alerting us that the Black Gangster Disciples have put out an SOS, or 'Shoot on Sight' for police officers," he said. "For a couple of months we've been preaching safety because we knew our location between New Orleans and on the I-10 corridor... it's going to happen here."
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Postby deltadukman » Wed May 20, 2015 12:39 pm

I saw Brandon PD pull a guy over last night for minor traffic stuff most likey, they were on 2 man patrol per vehicle. Sad sad days.
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Postby Buckwabit » Wed May 20, 2015 12:54 pm

I hate to be the devil's advocate but some of the police is the reason this is happening. Treat people like crap is not part of Protecting and serving. Or taking advantage of the power they have...The problem goes two ways. Too much overstepping by a few has ruined it for the lot of police. Fire away, I'm sure this pisses some of you off because the truth normally does
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Postby cwink » Wed May 20, 2015 1:49 pm

Buckwabit wrote:I hate to be the devil's advocate but some of the police is the reason this is happening. Treat people like crap is not part of Protecting and serving. Or taking advantage of the power they have...The problem goes two ways. Too much overstepping by a few has ruined it for the lot of police. Fire away, I'm sure this pisses some of you off because the truth normally does

Are there bad police? Of course, are there good police that make mistakes? Yes, they are human.

But for people to ambush, or set up hits, or run through the streets of NY chanting for dead police would be the same as People in white hoods running around putting hits on Black people or students marching through the streets screaming "What do we want, Dead teachers".

There is a way to deal with bad police and that is after the encounter and through the proper channels... Not on the street!!!

We have laws to keep order, we have a justice system to deal with law breakers, when the society starts to circumvent these laws we will have chaos and everyone will be worse off...
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Re: Is war being waged against our law enforcement?

Postby lilwhitelie » Wed May 20, 2015 3:29 pm

mshunter77 wrote:No doubt it is time to go to two person patrols. The problem is that most PDs are short handed as it is because not many people want to put up with that kind of crap for low pay.

Bingo!!!! Now Obama is demanding body cams etc and that will strain most cities budgets that are already strained. In theory a 2 man team is best in all situation but just isn't feasible financially. Just look at what the average officer is paid. I do Beleive this situation will get a lot worse and no way I could go to work knowing I had a crosshair on me every day. Someone needs to get a hold of this country and quickly. At this rate martial law won't be far away. Almost like a scene from the movie Purge.

Just saw on fox where the Feds are going after a biker gangs logo. Talk about targeting or profiling. That will put those officers in a really bad spot to enforce that one. Not saying biker gangs are saints but look at what a small number they have vs the real gangs that account for murders everyday. Gonna tell them they can't wear certain colors etc or face being arrested.
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Re: Is war being waged against our law enforcement?

Postby merlebo05 » Wed May 20, 2015 4:29 pm

cwink wrote:
Buckwabit wrote:I hate to be the devil's advocate but some of the police is the reason this is happening. Treat people like crap is not part of Protecting and serving. Or taking advantage of the power they have...The problem goes two ways. Too much overstepping by a few has ruined it for the lot of police. Fire away, I'm sure this pisses some of you off because the truth normally does

Are there bad police? Of course, are there good police that make mistakes? Yes, they are human.

But for people to ambush, or set up hits, or run through the streets of NY chanting for dead police would be the same as People in white hoods running around putting hits on Black people or students marching through the streets screaming "What do we want, Dead teachers".

There is a way to deal with bad police and that is after the encounter and through the proper channels... Not on the street!!!

We have laws to keep order, we have a justice system to deal with law breakers, when the society starts to circumvent these laws we will have chaos and everyone will be worse off...
Its hard to prove a police officer was in the wrong when he has everyone on his team, including the guys that should be protecting you (other officers) but yet they stick to the code of blue and back their buddy on the force no matter what.. I think holding each other accountable within the dept is sometimes the problem.. Sometimes the bad police just do not get dealt with because of who they are/know.. I do think they deal with so much more crap on a regular bases that they have trouble treating civilized people civil because they are so use to dealing with idiots. Just my 2 cents
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Re: Is war being waged against our law enforcement?

Postby adame » Wed May 20, 2015 5:09 pm

How about we just get rid of all police and watch the world burn, then wait and see how quick everyone will be calling for help. [JAPANESE OGRE]
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Re: Is war being waged against our law enforcement?

Postby 1010 » Wed May 20, 2015 5:49 pm

Yes there is a war. And it will only get worse. bath house sure isn't going to stop it. This summer is going to be ruff.
Anybody with a brain won't put up with this crap, and the good LE will be gone from lack of support, and I don't blame them.

This link is from Alex Jones, I know so don't even say it. But watch the video from a argument on the street.
Funny tho , some white peace loving fools got schooled on the black man.. They found out what we've known.
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Re: Is war being waged against our law enforcement?

Postby mshunter77 » Wed May 20, 2015 11:18 pm

The problem with targeting biker gangs is that not all of them are criminal organizations. Some are just groups of good hearted people that like to hang out and ride together. I am sure they know which are which though.
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Re: Is war being waged against our law enforcement?

Postby rjohnson » Thu May 21, 2015 8:07 am

Buckwabit wrote:I hate to be the devil's advocate but some of the police is the reason this is happening. Treat people like crap is not part of Protecting and serving. Or taking advantage of the power they have...The problem goes two ways. Too much overstepping by a few has ruined it for the lot of police. Fire away, I'm sure this pisses some of you off because the truth normally does
I'm with you. I have had nothing but bad experiences with LEOs. Had a GW do nothing but harass me and my family hunting on public land outside of Okalona the entirety of my childhood and high school days. We got checked EVERY time we hunted over there. There might have been a couple of times each year we didn't checked. This all happened because one fat ass GW there had an issue with my grandfather unrelated to hunting and put the rest of the GWs that patrolled there on alert so we were constantly assumed guilty of something. We just tolerated it unfortunately. Almost every time I have been pulled over for speeding or gone through a road block the LEO has been a straight up "turd-cutter". Got a breathlyzer physically forced on me in Madison at a roadblock. Busted my lip forcing me to take it. I had not even been drinking but the others with me had so I was assumed guilty on the spot I guess. In Arkansas had a GW search my entire truck and dumped all of my stuff out on the ground, did his best to break my plug, and accused me of trespassing on my own lease. The only thing he found was the lack of a signature on my state stamp. Reason I was checked because I called him to come look at how people had been trespassing on the lease and shooting at my decoys with high powered rifles. So I got a warning then he hauled ass slinging rocks all over my truck. Called to complain and his superior laughed at me, said no way it happened, and hung up on me. So in my opinion most of them have lost sight of why they have a job and have an attitude problem or are drunk on power. We need more Andy Griffith and Barney Fife minded cops than these hot head SWAT team minded guys. So yes a lot of these problems have been brewing for years and people have finally had enough of the over powering always right and do no wrong LEOs. Myself I just try to say as little possible and get the encounter over with quickly. Maybe I just have bad luck or always find the wrong ones to deal with.

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