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Postby ScottS » Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:32 am

Jeff -

I understand the hitting philosophy and the take sign. What I do not understand is that when it is proven to NOT WORK in your favor, why do you still enforce it? Personally, I think Polk is just that stubborn and hard headed. I know that the man wrote the book on baseball but times change. The fundamentals are still the same, hit the ball, throw the ball, and catch the ball, but the process in which you do those things sometimes change - especially hitting techniques/styles. Pitchers change all the time and a batter must learn to adjust! If Polk has so little confidence in his players that he has to tell them what to do on every single pitch....well, that may say more about our program than anything.

I love what RP did for us but other schools are leaving us behind. We are the USC, Bama, Michigan, Oklahoma, etc of baseball in that we have unlimited sources, a GIANT stadium, a tradition spanning 30+ years, et al. I simply do not understand how RP feels that the NCAA is the enemy when his peers in the SEC are starting to routinely kick our booty on spring weekends.

By the way, McMahon had us in a super regional with his own players and he won the SEC tourney with his own players in 2001. Polk doesn't have any of Mc's players now and this is his 4th season back. So why are we struggling in 2005?

You know, this isn't just about this year, one game, or one SEC series. This is about RP's last championship, of any sort, coming in 1989. You say that those players were RP's players. Well it was McMahon that won the championship with them. Polk couldn't/didn't do it with his players so perhaps it is the coach, and not the players, after all?

P.S. I'm not responsible for any spelling errors or omissions in my post. :lol:
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Postby Greenhead22 » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:11 am

McMahon sucks.................sucks now...........sucked back then. :lol:
I hate the man with a freakin' passion. :roll: See everyone over on Gene O Tool's board were complaining about Polk about doing this and that, but Mac was able to do twice as much............yeah with Polk's damn players. :roll: Mac had Polk's guys for 3 of the yrs he coached, and to be honest the players hated him. Polk left Mac with great players...........why didn't Mac do the same? :roll: I don't know but he sure as hell didn't. Plus the competition level now in the sec is twice as good as it was during Mac's years, could careless what other "experts" say. SEC teams beat each other up on the weekends and then lose a midweek game, hey chit happens.

We are 24-10, which to me is pretty damn good compared to the last several yrs at this same time during the season. We could very well end up with 20 wins in the sec. I also don't see any problems with us missing the sec tourney with as thick as the sec west is.

Kinda funny though........everyone was bitching over the weekend calling for Polk's head, Corley's head, LaNinfa's head.........but we won last night and all that chit changed. :lol: If we are winning no one complains, it's only when you lose a game when state fans have to find something to bitch about and it's gotten old....like the backup QB in football is always better than the starter.........always gotta have some type of controversy going. :lol:
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Postby ScottS » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:04 pm

but Mac was able to do twice as much............yeah with Polk's damn players.


This is why I say it is the coaching that is the problem. Polk couldn't get it done with his players but McMahon could! :wink:

Don't misunderstand my critcism's of Polk. It is not personal (unlike yours of McMahon), but I simply feel that it's now time for him to go finish out his years with his mama (he still lives with her doesn't he, or has she passed away?).

In conclusion, if you can't win it all with 4 major league all-stars on your team (44% of your starters in over 20 games).....you ain't gonna ever win a championship! That is the thing that the Polk supporters cannot see. It will always be, "Just let Polk get his players in"

Talk to you later buddy.
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Postby Greenhead22 » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:21 pm

Polk won with his players. They went to the CWS in '97 when he left, and then again with Mac Blah Blah Blah in '98. Mac could recruit a pitcher but forgot about hitters. :lol: Polk will leave when he gets good and ready, and he's not. Like I said earlier......you've got a choice.......Polk or Raffo........you decide. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby bigwater » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:52 pm

hey gh22 write it down.. i'll shave my head if and when polk is gone that raffo is the next coach.... wanna bet????
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Postby Greenhead22 » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:28 pm

I see this as a no lose situation for myself, since you are shaving your head if it happens........didn't say anything about me having too. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby bigwater » Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:41 pm

i'm betting that i'll shave my head.. what about you???? what are you willing to be that raffo will be the next coach after polk is gone (whenever that might be)....
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Postby go24 » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:03 pm

WRONG,WRONG,WRONG Greenhead! I've been singing this song for two years. I'm not changing my mind because we beat South AL. Until we obtain SEC championships and CWS invitations I won't quit!

The recent records the program has produced is simply unacceptable :oops: A program of our caliber should be embarassed and consider the seasons under Polk since he returned as intolerable. God bless him, give him another watch, put his name on something else, but get him out of there!

Programs that win national championships won't put up with this. MSU does and as a result we've never won jack :cry: It's totally uncalled for with the resources we have :idea:

How bad is it? Ole Miss beats our @$$ regularly. Tulane is ranked #3 in the nation. We've got people making excuses for a coach that can't keep us over .500 in the league :roll:

Sorry bro, but I got to disagree with you...
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Postby Greenhead22 » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:28 pm

Since when does Ole Miss beat our ass regularly in baseball? You've got me there because we've controlled them for yrs except for the mayor trophy games.

Tulane is #3 in the nation because they picked up some key transfers for this season, namely the top player in college, Micah Owings from Georgia Tech. I watched them smoke LSU last night, and LSU isn't no slouch.

Except for Bama, everyone else in the west is .500 or below, so I have no problem with our record at this point in time. Should we have swept Georgia....sure.....but it's hard as hell to beat a team in their backyard, don't care what their record is.
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Postby BAY KINGFISHER » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:40 pm

yeh yeh we have good coaches from back in the day yeh awww, I want to win now. we need SEC titles, National Rankings and CWS appearance, damm we done forgat were Omaha was.....Comes down to it if State (the admistration) would realize how much money winning sports teams bring to a University maybe we could be like LSU.... When I was there in 94-98 and our Basketball team made it to the Final Four, the next yr had a huge new freshman enrolement....Winning = Money, no question.... put a national contender on the field and the stadium would look like super bulldog weekend every weekend
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