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I needs to start looking 
It would be one word,"SOLD" 
Who is finding some rocks?
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That is a nice point. Where was it found? It looks ground (the edges intentional dulled where the point was hafted). It looks ground all the way up the base and sides until it meet the tear drop shape of the point. Looks like a Hinds to me. Related to a Quad and Pelican type is what the book says... also says transitional paleo. Very nice! Show use some more!
That is a nice point. Where was it found? It looks ground (the edges intentional dulled where the point was hafted). It looks ground all the way up the base and sides until it meet the tear drop shape of the point. Looks like a Hinds to me. Related to a Quad and Pelican type is what the book says... also says transitional paleo. Very nice! Show use some more!
Thanks,sorefeet,for checking it out for me. I have been all over the net trying to find one that looked like it. Did you notice it has been notched slightly on both sides above the base? Sorry about the poor quality of the picture,I used a work camera which is a real pos. As to where it came from. I found it in my great-great grandmother's trunk 35 years ago. She died in 1906. I guess she picked it up when she was a child and hung on to it as a curiosity. She was born and grew up in Panola county. The only other real possiblity would be Tate county where she lived her later years. I am going to send one more (poor quality) image of the point. I really enjoyed the pictures you posted of your collection. Makes me want to walk some creek banks! I have a few more oddities that I will put in later on with a decent camera. Thanks again.
It does have a Florida type look about it, like a bull tongue Simpson, but the material its made of looks more like north ms origin. The flaking on it looks paleo to me. It looks well made and heavily ground so that alone makes it very old. Its all just my opinion.. The book has pictures of the Hinds type and it looks real close to it and the location is right if it was found in north MS.
Here's what the book says about the Hinds type point
HINDS - Transitional Paleo, 10,000 - 6000 B.P.
Location: Tennessee, N. Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Arkansas
Description: A short, broad, auriculate point with basal grinding. Shoulders taper into a short expanding stem. Some examples are basally thinned or fluted. Related to Pelican and Coldwater points found in Texas (also see Pelican and Quad)
It also has the shape of a Beaver Lake type which fits with the paleo age but your point doesn't have ears at the base like a Beaver Lake does. It also looks very close to the Coldwater type mentioned.
Here's what the book says about the Hinds type point
HINDS - Transitional Paleo, 10,000 - 6000 B.P.
Location: Tennessee, N. Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Arkansas
Description: A short, broad, auriculate point with basal grinding. Shoulders taper into a short expanding stem. Some examples are basally thinned or fluted. Related to Pelican and Coldwater points found in Texas (also see Pelican and Quad)
It also has the shape of a Beaver Lake type which fits with the paleo age but your point doesn't have ears at the base like a Beaver Lake does. It also looks very close to the Coldwater type mentioned.
The color of your point looks like what folks call creek chert. It was/is a mississippi favorite material to use. Here is an example from MS:
Creek chert turns pink and red when heat altered. Heat altering the material made it easier to work with. The material becomes more like glass when heat altered. Creek chert could turn solid red after heat altering and be confused with a material called jasper. Many believe that the paleos did not heat alter the material. I don't know if you can really say they never did it but in most cases paleo point material looks to be natural and not altered by heat. Here is a pic of a point of the same MS creek chert material but it has been heat altered:
Your point looks like the natural material which is another clue that it is paleo.
Creek chert turns pink and red when heat altered. Heat altering the material made it easier to work with. The material becomes more like glass when heat altered. Creek chert could turn solid red after heat altering and be confused with a material called jasper. Many believe that the paleos did not heat alter the material. I don't know if you can really say they never did it but in most cases paleo point material looks to be natural and not altered by heat. Here is a pic of a point of the same MS creek chert material but it has been heat altered:
Your point looks like the natural material which is another clue that it is paleo.
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Awesome job,sorefeet. Two of those are almost identical to my point. I think you pretty much nailed it down. i wonder if the name Coldwater for the point has anything to do with the Coldwater River area? Pretty funny since I have a Coldwater,Ms. mailing addres,Huh? Once again, you are the man. Later I would like to send some images of a few oddities I found below Bull Shoals dam when I was a youngster. Like a marble, a cube, a plumb bob and what looks like a gator snout!
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