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Pinch Collar

Postby Click » Tue May 02, 2006 7:56 pm

Can anyone recommend a good pinch collar? Also, what is the difference between a pinch collar and choke collar?
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Postby skuna » Wed May 03, 2006 5:17 am

pinch collar pinches and choke collar chokes. They have prongs in the inside of the collar the squeeze together when pressure it applied to leash.

I've got a complete of pinch collars but don't care for them and don't see the need in them. A good choke chain or a slip lead is really the most you need.
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Postby goosebruce » Wed May 03, 2006 6:35 am

I disagree. A pinch collar a lot of times is more effective. Espeically for a smaller person/ stronger dog combo, cause if a dog pulls on a pinch collar hes putting the pressure on himself. I use a pinch collar much more than a choker personally.

To me, a choke collar is like a nick, and I subsitute tugs on the choker for nicks on the collar. A pinch collar is direct pressure, pressure is applied until the dog's actions stop it. Different forms of pressure. Some dogs understand one when the understand the other, some don't. Dogs that tend to freeze or clam, oftentimes the simple message of a pinch collar helps them see that.

You can hurt a dog's larnex with a choker. You will not hurt a dog with a pinch collar anything short of total abuse. There have been studies done with damaged larynexs from choker use (the one I saw was working german shepards in europe followed for their entire lives, and it was astounding the # of dogs that had damage from chokers).

A pinch collar looks like some kind of arcahic torute device. For that reason alone, most people shy away from them. Be careful where you use it cause you can certainyl stir up some emotions from people when they see it. travis
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Postby Dog's Eye » Wed May 03, 2006 6:54 am

goosebruce wrote:
A pinch collar looks like some kind of arcahic torute device. For that reason alone, most people shy away from them. Be careful where you use it cause you can certainyl stir up some emotions from people when they see it. travis



I felt that way about ecollars, till I used one the first time. It's more more effective and humane than a serious hands on correction. And, I can see where the same would be true of the pinch.
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Postby goosebruce » Wed May 03, 2006 8:07 pm

You can force a dog in public with an ecollar a lot easier than with a heeling stick. This I can attest to cause I do waterforce in a church parking lot on the side of whitten road. hehe. Public percetion is reality when it comes to things like smacking a dog. travis
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Postby Jay Dufour » Thu May 04, 2006 5:35 am

You get a 80 lb bone headed 9 month old that has NEVER been made to do ANYTHING in for training.......instead of skiing behind this boy with a choke chain.....use the pinch collar.....He bees heeling like a good boy.....in a matter of minutes! :wink: We dont use them for anything but the demons that people send for training,because they are not necessary.I get em fron Dogs Afield.Good Luck
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Postby teul2 » Thu May 04, 2006 9:19 am

Pinch collar
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Postby Click » Thu May 04, 2006 8:03 pm

Teul2,

That pinch collar looks like something I put on my wife every now and then.
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Postby skuna » Thu May 04, 2006 8:44 pm

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Postby Dog's Eye » Fri May 05, 2006 6:20 am

Click wrote:Teul2,

That pinch collar looks like something I put on my wife every now and then.




Damn son, wrong forum :lol:
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Postby littlesmacko89 » Fri May 05, 2006 11:22 am

i had a trainer tell me that a choke collar will cause some type of swelling in the esphogus if used to much and he recommended me to get a pinch collar and i did

i used a pinch collar on bout of my labs and most of the time a 7-9 month old lab will be trying to wonder not with a pinch collar they won't they will be looking at u the whole time

i trained my 8 month old lab in bout 2 weeks with a pinch collar maybe less than that i don't know. but if he is acting up and wont mind i will go get the pinch collar out and he won't act up anymore cause he don't like it at all but it works great teaches them quick and easier for you cause u dont have to yank hard to make them do what u want them to do for you

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Postby Bustin' Greenheads » Wed May 10, 2006 7:42 am

bought a pinch collar yesterday. buddie of mine couldnt believe i was going to use it on my dog. dog was wanting to get away from me with a choke collar. i am a believer in the pinch collar. i used to think they were awful when my grandfather had one. now i see why. that dog is alot calmer and pays attention more now. i would go with a pinch collar rather than a choke. just my opinion.
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pinch or choke

Postby MD11Pilot » Wed May 10, 2006 10:04 pm

Was suffering from "autopilot boredom" this evening from Anchorage to Toronto and thinking about this thread. I've used both and definitely prefer the pinch collar...but I admit I've never seen any "directions" on the right or wrong way to use one. I believe they are safer than a choke chain for two reasons: 1) it is about 4 times as wide as a choke chain thus distributes the pressure over a wider area and; 2) by design the amount of constriction is limited - it physically cannot "choke down" to nothing like a choke chain can. My question is how snugly should it be adjusted? You can add or remove links easily to the point that it couldn't get tight enough to "choke"...can't do that with a choker chain. I think I have mine adjusted so I get a little "choke" with the pinch...whatever that means. And I always remove and put it on by taking it apart and rehooking it...I don't want those prongs anywhere close to my dog's eyes which would happen if you slipped it on and off like a choker chain.
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Postby salty » Thu May 11, 2006 1:01 pm

http://www.leerburg.com/fit-prong.htm

Here is a link about how to fit a pinch collar.

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Prong

Postby MD11Pilot » Thu May 11, 2006 9:49 pm

Thanks Salty! Very helpful

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