Preparing a legal dove field?

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Postby RIPPY » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:12 pm

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS INVITE MR GREEN PANTS, AND YOU WILL BE FINE.LOL
You duck hunters sure know how to do it!!!!!
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Postby Woodduckdawg » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:17 pm

I guess the real question is where Mr Green Jeans will be opening day.
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Postby Hayes » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:20 pm

how can something be so grey I just want to know what is legal what is not.
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Postby duckkiller » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:26 pm

from what you have said I dont think you are legal
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Postby SB » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:37 pm

Hayes,

It doesn't sound as if your field is legal. Cracked corn does not grow, so by disking it in, the germination will not be improved.

You can only plant wheat once. If top sewn more than once and hunted over, it could be considered baited.

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Postby Hayes » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:43 pm

10 DAY RULE AND DISTANCE


Any baited area is considered to still be baited for 10 days after the complete removal of all grains, salt, or other feed that is not a result of a normal agricultural practice. This rule recognizes that removing the bait does not remove the lure created, and that doves will still be attracted to an area even after the bait is gone. Hunting over, around, or near a baited area at any time during the 10 day period after the removal of all bait is illegal. How close to bait can you hunt without breaking the law? There is no set distance, and court rulings vary depending on the circumstances. The influence of any bait, which can only be determined on a case by case basis, will increase or decrease depending on many factors, including topography, weather, and dove flight patterns. Remember, however, that the law prohibits hunting if bait is present and could lure or attract birds "to, on, or over areas where hunters are attempting to take them." All such bait (salt, grain, or other feed) must be totally removed for a period of 10 days before the area may be legally hunted.



To me that means you can bait but it better be completly gone at least 10 days before otherwise what is the purpose of having the law if you can not put it out to begin with? Maybe I am just off on the way I read that which is possible. Does anyone else see my point?

If you disk and throw wheat out after that time as long it is for the first time to sow wheat and throw it out it would be legal?
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Postby Wingman » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:50 pm

Too many times I've seen a field get disked and the bait buried, then turned back on top again.

Disking is not removing the bait. You've either got to let the birds eat it all up or scoop it off of the field. The only other option is for it to rot away, and that ain't happening in this desert-like environment we've got goin' on right now. That bait is just gonna sit there until the birds eat it up. It's got to be completely removed 10 days prior to the hunt.

Take this as a lesson learned; don't put out chops.
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Postby Hayes » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:58 pm

I heard that and I will not again, thank goodness we did not put much out to begin with. I feel pretty certain it will be gone before the 10 day cut off. Thanks for all the help. I normally plant brown top just did not have the time this year and the co ops were short on feed wheat so I got soem chops to feel its place but will not again!! Thanks again to all who chimed in
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Postby bigwater » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:50 am

hayes.. hell just don't shoot over the limit and you'llbe fine, chops or not...


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Postby Coach » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:07 am

Just put a horse trough out there and tell them you are feeding your horses!!!!!HA!!!
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Postby Wingman » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:42 pm

hayes.. hell just don't shoot over the limit and you'llbe fine, chops or not...


disclaimer.. we thought it wuz a toad...


Totally wrong! It's: "we thought you wuz a toad"
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Postby JaMak84 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:47 pm

Is providing a water source considered baiting?
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Postby Wingman » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:00 pm

No. Only salt, feed or grain is considered bait. You could put a gravel patch or water hole in the field and be perfectly legal.

I've seen fields where a water hose ran from the camp to a furrow and it was covered with doves.
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Postby Greenhead22 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:03 pm

If you've got water in your field or adjacent to it, then you'll have birds right now. What birds we have right now the water is keeping them there.
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Postby JaMak84 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:10 pm

Checked out about 100 acre field this morning. Half of it is corn and half is soybeans. They've cut some test strips in both fields this week. This field has about a 1 acre shallow borrow pit in it. Just wondering if I would be legal if I got permission to pump it up and hunt it.
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