What great outlaws I have....

[Greenhead22]

Well, today I went to check on my millet I put out in my duckhole two weeks ago. It has come up to about 3-6" tall, so I hope it will make it. But as I turn around to leave the field I see a brand new built duck blind. My buddies had come across some wood so I figured they had built it, and I would supply the camo fabric. Come to find out it wasn't my buddies, it was the outlaws that built it, in my own damn duckhole. They didn't build it in the timberline, which is on us, they built it 10 yds. out in the field so it wouldn't be on us, but the fact remains, they don't have a right to hunt that corner of the field. But since I don't have a lease on the field I don't know if I can do anything about it, only have verbal permission. But during the week I am going to be hunting the mess out of it.

[B.LONG]

Should not have been running your mouth about killing 120 ducks in a 20 day span in this infamous hole.

[Greenhead22]

Nope, they saw me from the other corner of the field shooting those ducks everyday. Plus I should have expected that from them, just wanting to make me mad.

[featherduster]

Define "outlaw". Do you own or have written permission to hunt the property where the blind is built? Do the builders of the blind have written permission to hunt the area where the blind is? Do you have written or verbal permission to hunt the field you have planted? Mississippi trespass laws require you to have written permission from the landowner if you don't have a lease on public record..

[Greenhead22]

The field itself is split in 20 acre blocks. I have verbal permission to hunt one corner, and I believe they have permission to hunt the far corner. The reason I call them outlaws is because they hunt on everyone, especially us. They do not have not one written lease, yet they hunt over 750 acres, including some government land, which cannot be hunted. I am mad at them because my dad almost got shot by one of them in our woods. The guy saw the deer coming from the opposite ridge, but he didn't see my dad right between himself and the deer. Well, I went back over there today and they had put up a Posted sign in my duckhole and on the blind itself. And the person's name on the sign doesn't even own that 20 acre block, his mother does. So it is going to be some crap started, but I'll probably go over there next weekend with some Round-Up or Gramoxine and kill the millet cuz I don't want them kill a single duck coming to the food.

[ September 23, 2001: Message edited by: Greenhead22 ]

[featherduster]

GH, I've hunted deer and other small game growing up in Jeff Davis county all my life. While hunting on my cousins land with verbal permission, I was approached by another hunter. This was an older gentleman my family has known for years, but when he found out I was hunting there he went ballistic. Turns out he had verbal permission also. I no longer live in that county but still own land that I hunt on there(deer). I learned my lesson after that and no longer hunt anywhere with verbal permission. If the landowner doesn't give exclusive written permission to you, it will generally always end up in conflict. Just as you eluded to about your father almost being shot, without exclusive rights or an organized club I personally don't like walking in an area where others hunt without my knowledge. Thus, I don't like hunting overcrowded WMA's.

[Duck Nawteek]

Hey GH I know how you feel something similar happen to me a couple years back. I would go over there cut the damn blind down and light up the millet field. After I read your post I got mad thinking that the same thing happened to me. It sucks that you bust your butt to have a good duckhole and someone comes in and tries to take it away. If they show up and try to hunt, just out of spite shoot anything that moved just to piss them off. The more I think about it the madder I get. [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_mad.gif[/img]

[Big Lou]

Hey GH,

Why don't you just go get written permission from the mother. Then make a copy of it and laminate it and put it up with a copy of your own posted sign and attach it to their blind! I done that before and really pissed some people off! But you gotta CYA buddy!

[Greenhead22]

Because of the liability issue, she will not give me a written permission slip, even though our club has liability insurance. But I am going to put up our club posted sign on both sides of their blind so they will know not to step across the ditch and go into our timber after a duck. I will probably setup 75 yds behind them in our timber and call ducks past them and into the woods.

[Greenhead22]

Mediation would be good, but not with this bunch I put up with. Hopefully my timber will be right this year and won't have to step foot in that field. But my dad has permission to hunt the whole field, so he said it was going to get crowded in that blind. The way it is built it can hold 6-8 people. But there are only two ways to get ducks into that corner of the field, (1) legal or illegal food, or (2) robo duck. These people can't afford a robo, and the legal food that is growing there will be Round-Up sprayed this weekend. So they are going to have to bait the field or sit there and watch ducks fly 50 yds farther and sit down on the santurary wetland. Since they are now going to hunt on my corner of the field I have a better chance of getting them caught by the federal warden with illegal baiting, lead shot, no duck stamps, etc. Where they were hunting before it was virtually impossible to catch them in the wrong doing, until now.

[CaptnT]

Sounds like that blind might make a good mosquito-clearing fire to me [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]

[Johnboy114]

Here is an idea before you go mess up their field. You may have tried this already, but try to go be friends with the people, see if they want to hunt with ya. do this before the season. The way i see it is if they are outlaws like you say, then if you start a war, you may not have time to hunt, instead you will be thinking about what you can do next. Just my thoughts. I ca understand your frustration, i would be mad too, i was just sitting here trying to think about what i would do. It may be tough at first, but try and be positive to them, if they deny, just smile and be on your way.
NOt trying to tell you how to run your life, cause i have a hard enough time with my own. Just suggestions.
matt

[Greenhead22]

First off, it is not their field, it belongs to a woman that they do not even know. I will not make friends with them because they trepassed on us one day and my dad almost got caught in the line of fire when they shot at a deer. I remember of 5 occasions last year when two of them sat 75 yds away on their 4-wheelers and shot at every duck that cupped towards my dekes, just to piss me off. I planted the millet in the hole, and I have the right to take it away. And when the first time occurs when I see yellow gold floating and lead shot hulls everywhere, I am going to put the fed on their booty. I would love to burn it down or even put it in one of my timber holes, but in return they would burn our clubhouse or vandalize it. This goes to show you what types of people I have to put up with.

[ September 24, 2001: Message edited by: Greenhead22 ]

[RN989]

gh22,
You never know that Fed might just be on your booty this year.. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

[Greenhead22]

The fed can check me anyday he wants, and he will never catch me with over the limit, I don't need ducks that bad.