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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby cwink » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:40 pm

Deltamud77 wrote:
cwinkler wrote:It will be interesting to see if they continue the charges against Zach.. I mean I wonder if Dickie agreed to plead quilty if they dropped the charges agains his son?? or maybe to keep Lott of the witness stand, or was it pure a simple to save himseld.. .. I can't imagine he did it to protect Hood.


From the latest Clarion Ledger update it appears Zach walks but must relinquish his license to practice law. So sad, I cannot work and must be forced to spend my father's billion while he is away in jail.


Dang it is official.. I can now predict the future.. Ok for my next feat..

The next POTUS will be Jesse Ventura.. :shock:
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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby Gumbo » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:48 pm

Welcome to the Boodie-House Dickie!!!

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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby cwink » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:54 pm

Wait a minute. Wait a minute.. I just had a thought...

Our Tax dollars pay Hood's salary, who hired Scruggs who illegally bribed a judge that will now land him in jail (more tax dollars to support scruggs) to get his son off who will be forced to sit at home and do nothing but live off Daddy's money that he got from the benefit of our tax money going to Hood.. Then as a result of the freaking lawsuits against Tobacco, State Farm and all of the other companies these two have conspired to sue..We the conumers have to pay for it again due to higher prices... Ok now I am really peaved.. :x :x :x :x
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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby Jelly » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:35 pm

And when homeowners insurance rates go up across the country, we can all blame Dickie and Jimmy Hood.
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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby cwink » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:38 pm

Jelly wrote:And when homeowners insurance rates go up across the country, we can all blame Dickie and Jimmy Hood.



No we are going to blame you.. Then you can blame Dickie.. That is how it works... :lol:
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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby Jelly » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:50 pm

cwinkler wrote:
Jelly wrote:And when homeowners insurance rates go up across the country, we can all blame Dickie and Jimmy Hood.



No we are going to blame you.. Then you can blame Dickie.. That is how it works... :lol:



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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby Deagle » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:51 pm

Where you at Po Monk? What's the dealy yo?
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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby Bullreds & Greenheads » Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:33 pm

Didn't this guilty plea come out of nowhere? Think about it.

Maybe most of the assumptions are right. Maybe Dickie saw the writing on the wall and decided to fall on the sword so his son wouldn't be prosecuted. I can respect that.

But why did the prosecuters only decide to ask for a five year sentence? Most assume it is because Dickie is cooperating and the investigation will continue up the food chain to the REALLY BIG fish.

But folks, never underestimate the power of corruption in this state.

There is an alternate theory. Kind of like the carrot and the stick. Maybe somebody higher up the food chain used the stick by making Dickie "an offer he couldn't refuse." They then used some of their influence to get the prosecutors (or the boss of the boss of the prosecutors) to go with a pretty lenient deal as a further incentive for ole Dickie to cop a plea.

Dickie gets a slap on the wrist. Serves one year on his five year sentence in some Club Fed prison facility, perhaps like the one they have at Pensacola NAS, serving as a caddy for Navy brass on the base golf course.

Prosecution rests. There is no further investigation. The guilty have been convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, but what about the big fish? The real movers and shakers? The ones that are really guilty of abusing us, our State, and our Nation? The ones higher up the food chain?

What food chain?
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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby MSDawg870 » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:25 pm

Gumbo wrote:Welcome to the Boodie-House Dickie!!!

Hold on to that soap tight....


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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby LostBoy » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:57 am

I Made the prediction on Nov 30
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Well being the old fart that I am I tend to look at things with a more pessimistic outlook that is unfortunately, reliably correct.
In reality Mr. Scruggs has been arrested and he may or may not be guilty. I seriously doubt he will ever receive the punishment we think someone committed on these crimes should. And I seriously doubt he will ever be sharing a cell with anyone much less “Bend Over Bubba”. At best I see him tending a garden in a minimum security facility for a few months and getting out on parole. Disbarment? Maybe, but the joke is on us because he has made his millions and would probably look at disbarment as a forced retirement.
First, he is a filthy rich. He will be able to mount a defense team that is inaccessible for you and me after all the “System” favors those with the deepest pockets. These pockets will be able to buy legal talent that unfortunately will overshadow that of the lowly paid prosecutors. That team will come up with every excuse they can think of to sway the jury, which they will try their best to stack in their favor. After all, “he has been fighting these big insurance and tobacco companies and they have it out for him”
Second, he is connected. There is always the possibility of a presidential pardon, especially if Hillary gets in and Bush term ending in 08 but I don’t k now if this would be settled by then. Aside from that, large contributors like that have friends in high places that will be pulling strings at the Federal/State level.
Third, he is a very good lawyer himself. If he sees that he is losing he will negotiate the best terms he can and plead. I doubt a jury will have to render a verdict but, we will see.
He does have some things going against him though. He is white and he is from the South. He can’t play the race card and he looks like so many greedy Southern CEOs that have been caught with their pants down. i.e. MCI, ENRON

We will see how this pans out but I bet business as usual.
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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby LostBoy » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:57 am

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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:33 am

A few facts for clarification.

First, Scruggs pled guilty to one of the counts against him. As part of the deal, the other counts will be dismissed. When entering the plea, he had to admit his guilt to the Court. The maximum prison term for the crime he pled guilty to is 5 years. There was no agreement by the prosecution to recommend anything less. Judge Biggers is a no nonsense Judge. Scruggs will be sentenced to the full 5 years and the maximum fines (which are not much in terms of Scruggs' money). But, keep in mind, that this plea only relates to the judicial bribery case involving Judge Lackey. No immunity was given to Scruggs for any other unrelated crimes ---such as prosecution in the Bobby Delaughter bribery matter (the matter that Langston has already pled guilty to), MS state charges for the same type of crimes (if AG Hood ever get around to it), any state or federal tax prosecutions, etc. In other words, Scruggs is not out of the woods yet. And by virtue of the guilty plea to a felony, Scruggs will lose his law license. The only way for Scruggs to get any leniency and some degree of immunity from other prosecutions would be for him to agree to cooperate with the feds in the prosecution of others. So far, Scruggs has refused to do so.

Next, with regard to Zach, he is not being let off the hook as some have stated in this thread. The prosecution has only agreed to delay prosecution --for now, meaning a continuance of the late March trial until a later date ---perhaps as early as April. And Zach has agreed to go ahead and forfeit his law license as part of this deal. As it stands now, Zach still faces a trial in this case, as he is the only remaining defendant without a plea deal. No doubt, the plea deals entered yesterday by Scruggs and Backstrum will open the door to more possibilities for Zach. Once Backstrum is sentenced, I think we will then see a plea deal by Zach, with the agreement being somewhat consistent with the punishment Backstrum received. I would be very surprised to see the case go to trial against only Zach.

The feds will now be gearing up for indictments (to the extent not obtained already), arrests, and prosecutions in the Bobby Delaughter related matter --- and perhaps other matters under investigation. The federal investigations and prosecutions are just shifting gears now to other matters. A MS housecleaning is coming.
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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby Negotiator » Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:05 pm

Scruggs (what an appropriate name) is a charlatan. He claims to represent "the people", yet he bribes judges and refuses to honor the commitments he made with the other bottom feeders. He felt he was above the law and evidently feels the rules of the game are for everyone else.

I realize he is probably headed to the "country club" but I take solace in knowing his name is tarnished forever.

Furthermore, I suggest, make that I demand, his name be removed from the Music building on campus at Ole Miss.

Ye have sinned and ye shall pay.

Think about it: trial lawyers don't make money; they take money someone else made. That goes against everything I hold sacred.

I hope his Hades is hotter than the other low lifes he associates with.

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Re: Scruggs pled

Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:31 pm

Update and correction. In my previous post, I indicated that Zach Scruggs had a deal to delay prosecution upon submitting his law license. Apparently, that turned out to not be the case. It appears that, as of today, the plea deadline, Zach still has no deal of any kind with the feds and the trial is still set to begin the end of this month. Mike Moore has entered an appearance today on behalf of Zach as new counsel.

Either Zach is lawyering up to fight it to the end, or he intends to make a deal by the end of today, using Mike Moore to get it done. I would be surprised if the sun set today without either a plea deal or a continuance of the trial or an extension of the plea deadline. But, if it does, Zach will be making a huge gamble by going to trial --- if he loses, he may serve more jail time than ANY of the others who have entered pleas so far in these Scruggs related matters.
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