Hunting a four year old

[D1]

Seems as though we are both blaming something on each other that neither one of us had/has anything to do with.......

Okay..Here's my opinion on it now.....
If you want to hunt deer with dogs go purchase your own property and fence it in and keep your dogs off of everybody else's property. WILL THIS REALLY BE THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEMS YOU ARE REFERING TO?

DO YOU MEAN PUTTING OUT PILES OF CORN?,

No, I mean working in the same manner as a farmer or gardener works the land and prepares the ground, plants, fertilizes and sprays etc. WELL I AM GLAD TO SEE YOU ARE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY,I SEE SO MANY PEOPLE(STILL HUNTERS) HERE IN THIS AREA WHO JUST PUT OUT PILES OF CORN AND CALL IT FOR AGRICULTURAL REASONS,INSTEAD OF DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY.
All dog hunters I know would not know anything about that because they let other people do that and then run the deer that we draw to our land with all the work we do. THE AREA I HUNT IS NATIONAL FOREST AND I HAVE NOT HAD THAT PROBLEM. SO IF THE DEER COMES FROM YOUR PROPERTY ACROSS THE ROAD AND INTO THE LAND YOU TELL ME I SHOULD BUY TO RUN DOGS ON,WHO DREW THE DEER IN AND WHO DOES IT BELONG TO

AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ON HERE WOULD STOP HUNTING WITH THIER LABS,BEAGLES, BIRD DOGS AND COON DOGS? YOU CANT STOP ONE TYPE WITHOUT STOPPING ALL OF THEM

Well my friend....I beg to differ, alot of other states have done it with very much success. Do a little research. I FOR ONE WILL FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL FOR THE RIGHT TO KEEP IT HERE. LETS LOOK AT IT FROM ANOTHER ANGLE:IF BARAK OBAMA GETS HIS WAY THE "ASSAULT RIFELS WILL BE BANNED,SO IS IT RIGHT TO BAN ONE TYPE OF FIREARM AND NOT ANOTHER?
And just so ya know, I grew up and hunted (until around the age of 25) in a camp that hunted with dogs, I coon hunted for 15 years and raised treeing walkers for 9 of those years A TREEING WALKER AND A FOX ARE 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT ANIMALS WHEN THEY ARE RUNNING GAME, I have 4 treeing fiest and 2 Jack Russell terriers now, so I know what it is all about.DANG!!!! I WISH YOU LIVED CLOSER I AM LOOKING FOR A FEIST AND SOMEONE TO TREE RAT HUNT WITH
My frustration lies in the deer dogs interfering with other peoples hunting and efforts to have quality deer on their property, a place to enjoy, relax. And the dog owners remarks like, "My dog can't read a posted sign" No respect for other peoples property or the rights that come with property ownership. You would not want someone to come to your house/yard without your permission or consent and lets say dump out a bunch of dogs on your lawn and they run your kids in the house, crap all over your yard, maybe tear up your favorite pair of boots, fishing rod etc. Or maybe if your neighbors might have a bunch of dogs that they turn loose and they come over on your yard/property doing something like the things mentioned above. You work hard, I am sure to have a nice yard, home, pair of boots, fishing rod, a place for your family and your kids to enjoy. Well we work hard to have a place for our family to enjoy by hunting, relaxing, and being in Gods great outdoors and I don't want other people dumping their dogs on my property, either. NO I WOULDNT WANT THAT AND I SEE YOUR POINT,AND I GUESS YOU ARE NOT SEEING WHAT I AM SAYING JUST BECAUSE YOUR NEIGHBOR DOES THESE THINGS ARE YOU GULTY TOO.
SO EVERYONE THAT RUNS DOGS IS THE PROBLEM WOULDNT THAT PUT YOU IN THE SAME CLASS........

My friend, I ain't mad... just trying to give some insight as to how it might feel if ya were on the other side of the situation. God Bless You.

I AM GLAD YOU ARE NOT MAD,NEITHER AM I. FACT IS AM GLAD WE ARE DISCUSSING THIS AS GENTELMEN.

[Deep Woods]

THE AREA I HUNT IS NATIONAL FOREST AND I HAVE NOT HAD THAT PROBLEM. SO IF THE DEER COMES FROM YOUR PROPERTY ACROSS THE ROAD AND INTO THE LAND YOU TELL ME I SHOULD BUY TO RUN DOGS ON,WHO DREW THE DEER IN AND WHO DOES IT BELONG TO

Your land would be fenced in remember, to keep your dogs in. Therefore if a deer of its own free will and not by being chased by dogs, were to jump over your fence onto your property then you being the owner of that land would have the right to cast your dogs and let them chase it around your property until your heart was content.
There are laws resticting dog owners from allowing their dogs to run loose in certain areas, so is it right to stop it in one area and not another? The dogs owner is responsible for the dog and by letting that deer dog run loose across others property{ies} under no restraint via leash, training {i.e. whistle, hand signals, voice commands, etc.} or otherwise is a violation of the non-consenting property owners rights.
{vizulize} If you lived in an area where you owned land and it was surrounded by another persons land on three sides and that person had dogs, cows, goats, or whatever and could not and would not keep their animals contained to thier property, and becuse of this your yard, garden, family, pets or animals you may have and such were constantly harrassed/disturbed/chased by these animals. Just because that person owns all the land around you does not give them the right to disregard your rights as a property owner. No more than deer dog hunters have the right to let their dogs loose to run across, harrass, or chase any persons or animals (wild or domesticated) on anothers property.
{vizulize}....Ya like to still hunt, {you have only the weekend/holiday to hunt} you've had a rough week at your job and are anxious to get to hunt and relax to relieve some of the stress....you are in your stand......then somebody that cares nothing about whether you get to provide food for your family by harvesting a deer, or whether your child or grandchild gets to harvest a deer (maybe their first)....drives up on the property next to yours the next 2 days and unloads a truck load of deer dogs, turns them loose and they come onto your land and chase/scare all the deer and other animals into hiding and ruin your families/your whole weekend/holiday hunt. You've worked to pay for the land, plant food plots, build stands, and improve the overall quality of your investment for your families enjoyment and benefit...then what happens?...every time you go hunting here comes a bunch of deer dogs. Awwwwwwggggg!!!!

NO I WOULDNT WANT THAT AND I SEE YOUR POINT,AND I GUESS YOU ARE NOT SEEING WHAT I AM SAYING JUST BECAUSE YOUR NEIGHBOR DOES THESE THINGS ARE YOU GULTY TOO.
SO EVERYONE THAT RUNS DOGS IS THE PROBLEM WOULDNT THAT PUT YOU IN THE SAME CLASS........

I thought I made it clear that I was speaking of "running deer with dogs", not all dog hunters. Other dog hunters (with the exception of coon hunters) usually have a way of controlling their dog whether it be via a whistle, hand signals, voice commands, shock collar, etc. and the other types of dog hunting are short range hunting situations, more or less a controlled environment.

Just my honest feelings on this......So it seems that we agree to disagree on the subject, my friend. Hope ya get a big'un!!

[D1]

[..So it seems that we agree to disagree on the subject, my friend. yes it does seem that we can agree to disagree on this subject. Hope ya get a big'un!! and same to you

now on to bigger and better things.do you have any feist for sale or know anyone with any?

[Deep Woods]

now on to bigger and better things.do you have any feist for sale or know anyone with any?

Not at this moment, I don't. I may have some puppies on over in the spring.

[waterfowl]

i myself have been a dog hunter in my early teens with family that specifically dog hunts. Hey it was fun and i know how it works. I myself(tree hugger) i think not! but call me whatever you want. I have 4000 acres of land with other camp members. it is a constant battle with guys dogs making their way onto our land and they come from nat forest,public land and wherever. i take alot of time to prep my fields, cut lanes with chainsaws to produce the best opportunity to harvest a tropy whitetail. we do this year end and year out. what pisses me off is to have a good buck work your area(which i have not disturbed at all except to go retrieve a dead deer. and get jumped by dogs and they run it off and everything else in sight. We also have kids(who are interested in hunting see this happen). Heck i have see one of the dogs who gets lost just hang around. Now this doesnt increase my chances of having a 130+ class buck hang around or even try to work a doe when a dog is running up their a$%. we spend alot of time to manage our camp and treat these dogs with respect when we catch them but i think it is disrepectful to just pick your dog up and then let it happen again.. i dont pay my $ at my place for dog hunters or dogs to come onto the property. just another view of what goes on on the other side. What should we do????just let it happen and the dog pushses a good deer off of our property on to you covering a road and you kill him?!

[D1]

i myself have been a dog hunter in my early teens with family that specifically dog hunts. Hey it was fun and i know how it works. I myself(tree hugger) i think not! but call me whatever you want. I have 4000 acres of land with other camp members. it is a constant battle with guys dogs making their way onto our land and they come from nat forest,public land and wherever. i take alot of time to prep my fields, cut lanes with chainsaws to produce the best opportunity to harvest a tropy whitetail. we do this year end and year out. what pisses me off is to have a good buck work your area(which i have not disturbed at all except to go retrieve a dead deer. and get jumped by dogs and they run it off and everything else in sight. We also have kids(who are interested in hunting see this happen). Heck i have see one of the dogs who gets lost just hang around. Now this doesnt increase my chances of having a 130+ class buck hang around or even try to work a doe when a dog is running up their a$%. we spend alot of time to manage our camp and treat these dogs with respect when we catch them but i think it is disrepectful to just pick your dog up and then let it happen again.. i dont pay my $ at my place for dog hunters or dogs to come onto the property. just another view of what goes on on the other side. What should we do????just let it happen and the dog pushses a good deer off of our property on to you covering a road and you kill him?!

guess we are gonna beat this dead horse until their is a big hole in the ground

[waterfowl]

sounds like it. Doesnt it?