change.

[LODI QUACKER]

Lets hear what happened at the meeting last night.

[LODI QUACKER]

This is a snowball effect. If you do not hunt there it doesnt miatter.Your WMA is next!!!!

We have GOT to put a stop to the Bastardization of our public land. Before long a duck hunter in MS will not be able to get up in the morning and decide he wants to go hunt. He will have to plaASK ANY MO DUCK HUNTER ABOUT THE SYSTEM UP THERE AND SEE HOW BAD IT IS.

YOUR RIGHTS ARE BEING STRIPPED FROM YOU A LLITTLE BIT AT A TIME.

WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE A VOICE HERE FOLKS. DONT JUST STAND BY AN LET THS CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

WHAT ARE THE BEST WAYS TO PUT AN END TO THIS TRASH!!!!!!!!!

[quackheadbp]

WE the hunters should get letter together and express our feelings toward this. we should all sign it and send it to jackson.

[davidees]

Youve got my support. Whatever I can do, just ask.

[LODI QUACKER]

Fellas I dont know exactly what to do yet but THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ideas? any successfull bouts with this type of thing? We Must provide an organized front to this govt strongarming of OUR RESOURCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is the long run WILL take from the NON waterfowl hunters that utilize our public lands. THESE PEOPLE ARE employed with OUR tax dollars and they are running roughshod over us and OUR LANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tehy dont give a chit because if they want t hunt there is some high dollar club waiting to take them on one of there 3 duck hunts a year so they get extra protection of said club.

Its a shame and we ARE GETTING SCREWED WITH EVERY NEW RULE OR LAW MADE.

[quackheadbp]

+1000 Some kind of action needs to be taken. and taken soon.

[quackheadbp]

+1000 Some kind of action needs to be taken. and taken soon

[DUCK-HUNT]

I'm all for doing whatever we need to.... Kevin might be a smart guy but he is on track to ruin our freelance hunting.... same thing happened in MO not too long ago and now they are really headed in the wrong direction....

THE END IS NEAR

MDC to test Quick Draw system at three wetland areas

The online system will let more people enjoy guaranteed

waterfowl hunting while maintaining the “poor line.”

JEFFERSON CITY–Missouri hunters will take part in a pilot program this fall to make waterfowl hunting at state-owned wetland areas less of a gamble.

The Missouri Department of Conservation will test an online drawing system called Quick Draw. The system is intended to change the way daily drawings are conducted to assign waterfowl hunting opportunities at state wetland areas. The new system still will include a pre-draw portion (Quick Draw) and a daily drawing for remaining open slots.

The agency will test Quick Draw at Eagle Bluffs, Grand Pass and Otter Slough conservation areas to determine whether the online system enhances convenience and hunter participation. Depending on how well it works, the system might be modified and expanded to other state-managed wetland areas in future years.

During this year’s trial run, Missouri residents will enter online drawings for hunting slots twice a week instead of having to go to the three conservation areas for the daily draw. Hunters entering the drawing through Quick Draw can apply to hunt at one area per day. The system will not limit the number of days for which hunters can apply, or the number of days they can hunt if they are drawn.

A drawing on Monday of each week will assign hunting slots for the following Friday through Monday. A drawing each Thursday will assign slots for the following Tuesday through Thursday. The Quick Draw system will accept applications a few days prior to each drawing.

The online drawings will assign 80 percent of hunting slots each day. The remaining 20 percent of slots will be assigned in a drawing at each wetland area the morning of the hunt. This arrangement – commonly called the “poor line” drawing – is part of the current drawing system.

Wildlife Division Chief DeeCee Darrow said the trial is part of a larger effort to re-examine how the Conservation Department does business and to use every technological means at its disposal to improve services.

“Our current daily drawing system for assigning waterfowl hunting opportunities has been around for a long time,” said Darrow. “However, it does have some drawbacks. We had no way to address those shortcomings in the days before the Internet. We think Quick Draw will make hunting at our wetland areas more practical for more hunters.”

The current drawing system assigns hunting opportunities in two ways. Each September, Missouri residents apply for hunting reservations at wetland areas. Those reservations can be from late October into January. The reservation system assigns half the hunting slots available at each wetland area each day. The other half are assigned in drawings – the so-called “poor line” – held early each morning at each wetland area. The three areas where Quick Draw is being tested will not be included in the reservation system this year.

Daily “poor line” drawings allow Missouri residents who do not have reservations and nonresidents to drive to the wetland areas of their choice for a chance at drawing one of the unreserved hunting slots. This feature is retained under Quick Draw.

Having a reservation under the current system is not always good for reservation holders. Reservation dates are locked in weeks or months in advance, and and do not always coincide with those days when large numbers of ducks and geese are present. Under the present system, the only way to concentrate your hunting efforts on the best days of the year is to stand in the “poor line.” The new system gives hunters more flexibility by letting them try for guaranteed hunting slots on the hottest hunting days of the year.

Driving to wetland areas to stand in the “poor line” is a costly gamble for those who live far from their favorite hunting areas or who must take a day of vacation for a hunt. It also creates a quandary for parents who want to hunt with their children but hesitate to take them out of school without any assurance they will get to hunt.

Quick Draw’s twice-weekly drawings will increase the number of hunters who have guaranteed slots when they arrive at wetland areas. It also will enable hunters to focus their efforts on the best hunting days.

Under Quick Draw, the computer drawing will determine the order in which successful applicants get to select hunting spots. It also will determine where successful hunters in the ‘poor line” fit in the selection of hunting spots. On any given day, the No. 1 spot can be in either the Quick Draw or “poor-line” portion of the draw.

Darrow said the new system will reduce the number of hunters turned away from wetland areas onsite each morning. Furthermore, she expects it to speed up the process of getting hunters to their hunting spots.

“We think hunters will find a lot to like about this system,” said Darrow. “We know from past surveys that lack of time is one factor that prevents people from enjoying outdoor activities. This will help Missourians make better use of their time.”

Darrow noted that high fuel prices make fruitless trips to distant hunting areas expensive. Quick Draw will save waterfowl hunters money.

“No system can please everyone,” said Darrow, “but we hope this new arrangement will make it easier and more affordable for people to take advantage of waterfowl hunting at state wetlands. If it lets more people enjoy hunting, it will be a success.”

Darrow said the Conservation Department is interested in finding out what hunters think of Quick Draw, both before and after this year’s trial. She said the new system is still in development, with time for fine-tuning to make the test run as convenient as possible for hunters and as useful as possible in post-test evaluation.

Hunters interested in providing suggestions about Quick Draw can contact the nearest Conservation Department office or send written comments to Wildlife Division, Missouri Department of Conservation, P.O. Box 180, Jefferson City, MO 65102-0180.

[LODI QUACKER]

I have been reading about that. Fellas There is NO FRELANCE HUNTING IN MO to speak of. We are on the same slippery slope and we HAVE to stop it now!!!!!!!

[jacksbuddy]

Ok, it seems that none of us want a draw system. However, it will not be enough to simply tell MDWFP that we don't want a draw system. We are going to have to come up with an alternative system to take its place. What suggestions can we come up with? And what are the pro's and con's of each?

Unless we can answer these questions, the MDWFP will not know where to go, nor how to get there, regarding these public lands. Any ideas?

[LODI QUACKER]

There problem is with the SO called boat race.

1. Make the boat ramp area or the whole thing for that matter a no wake zone during hours of darkness. .PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!!!!

2. Enforce the rules and there is no need for more rules. Quite honestly I have Yet to see Dale Adams doing ANYTHING over there. He is the Freakin Manager I have never laid eyes on the MAN.

3. No wake and enfore the laws = No more problems with a boat race. Hell ,if they would take away the time limit there would not be a boat race in the first place. The rules that they have enacted in recent years have caused the problems we have now.

4. I think they are doing this to reduce manpower needed- lazy? not enough officers?

I guess it would be out of the question for MSWF&P to say " we screwed up, now we will make it like it was" thats not going to happen but as the make more restrictive rules on our public hunting ground the next place down the road is affected and they have to make more rules for those places.

Really though the boat race? I mean really 3 boats taking off at the same time doesnt really warrant a baoat race. Folks they have been doing this for YEARS in Arkansas with a Hell of alot more than 3 boats without crash issues. In My opinion its the overzellousness of a few trying to change things the dont know anything about!!!!!!!!!!


SO whats the plan We Must get our state representatives involved in THIS FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!



Here is a list of our State Senators.

We as outdorsmen an women can no tollerate this any longer!



http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/members/ss_membs.xml

[DUCK-HUNT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as5_nChw ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As0xICmHY-0

this is aboat race..... no one has been injured.... NO ONE!!!!!!

Arkansas seems to be doing just fine with very little rules....

[gunner]

Wouldn't this be a good issue to bring up to the MS congressmen. It seems that we have enough people on this site alone to call/write congress and maybe cause some ripples.

What do say LODI QUACKER? You want to organize a petition or something? I wouldn't have a clue what to say, but would be more than willing to sign my name. I vote we try to reverse all draw systems.

[BR549]

Im gonna throw my 2 cents worth in here. Seems to me like the "boat race" comea in from the hunter(s) themselves not the dept of wildlifes rules. What you seem to be saying is you have to race in order to "BEAT" someone else to your spot! That my friend is greed and jelousy! Has nothing to do with the rules! After all it is "public" hunting! That means everyone else has the same right to get to a certian spot on the management area as you do! The problem lies with the explosion of hunters over the last few years and the overcrowding of the areas. If it continues then there will be no other choice but to limit the number of people that can visit an area on any given day. The only fair way to do this is by blind draw! Seems to me like you are whinning about the possibility of losing out on getting to "your" hole on a "public" management area first! I don't buy it and neither will your leader that support the dept!

[quackheadbp]

I think the best thing to do here is just cut out the rules. Just let it go back to the way it used to be. First come first serve. No time limit on launching your boat, and more presence of law enforcement. I mean right tickets for ANY law broke and after a while it will thin the heard of all these Yahoos that show up just to sky blast and ride around in there boats, and would offer a good place to hunt for the people that accually care about conservation and the tradition of duck hunting.