FYI: Remington 700

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FYI: Remington 700

Postby 7ducks » Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:18 pm

Special on CNBC (now 8:20) on the 700..........seems it has a tendency to go off on its own...they showed the gun going off, as the safety was pushed on and also just touching the bolt.
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby hillhunter » Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:56 pm

it was on the today show this am
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby JDgator » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:08 pm

I saw it too. But I am keeping my 700 anyway. Good gun.
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby Seymore » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:43 pm

Old news. The problems with the Model 700 trigger date all the way back to the 1950's and Remington addressed the concerns in the 1970's. Remington determined that less than 1% of rifles built before 1975 could be "tricked". A certain series of events have to transpire for the rifle to go off. The safety has to be placed between the safe and fire position, the trigger pulled, and the safety then moved to fire. After 1975 Remington modified the Walker Fire Control System, the trigger in question, to increase the tolerances between the seer and trigger. Remington made the decision in 1975 to not recall their rifles in part because it didn't stress the main points of gun safety and their belief that the ultimate safety is the firearm owner.

I got this information from reading various websites about the issue and condensing the main points. Bottom line, yes the gun can be "tricked" in certain rare circumstances. Keep the muzzle pointed where it should be and you want have a problem. Still hasn't stopped them from paying out about $20 million in settlement and claims. Guess it's a business decision for them and cost less to do this than recall all the model 700's in the world.
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby mille011 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:21 pm

My rifle did this a couple of years ago. Went to sight it in and when my brother hit safety the gun fired. It would also fire when you bolted the gun. Sent it back to remington and they claimed the trigger had been altered. If so, it was not by me. They repaired the problem and have had no other problems. Was a little unnerving.
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby Chuckle12 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:22 pm

I found out about this the hard way 2 years ago... and so did the floorboard of my truck. I believe Chopper also had a run in with the trigger on my old 700 at a teal hunt a few years ago. :shock: I got rid of it soon after it attacked my truck.
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby Blackduck » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:14 pm

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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby cwink » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:08 am

They had the same thing on the Model 600..
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby dukluk » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:53 am

DAYUM!!!...I saw the show, too....scared $#!+ out of me....I've got two of the 700's, and never had a minutes trouble....how do you tell if you've got one of the lemons????
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby mille011 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:21 am

dukluk,
Not sure how you can tell until it happens. With mine I actually shot at a deer the evening before, and then decided to make sure it was sighted in the next morning. I had the gun for over a year and had shot it numerous times before anything happened.

The show did say that in 2007 they began using a different trigger mechanism. I am hoping/assuming that is what they put back in my gun since I have had no other problems.
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby deltadukman » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:53 am

I have one and it has done it twice, but when it happened we didnt know about this problem. We are big sticklers on gun safety and both times it happend we wondered "what did we do wrong". Once with my dad he was unloading the gun after we had walked back up to the trailer. There was a group of people there and he was unloading the gun and when he took it off safety, the gun went off. He had it pointed away from everyone and it hit the porch, but missed a huge propane tank by just a few inches. We love the gun and dont want to get rid of it...is there a fix to this? I'd hate to retire this gun as it's accurate as can be.
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby MudHog » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:11 am

not making an excuse, but this is why we are taught to always keep a gun pointed in a safe direction.
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby munyoz70 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:18 am

deltadukman wrote:I have one and it has done it twice, but when it happened we didnt know about this problem. We are big sticklers on gun safety and both times it happend we wondered "what did we do wrong". Once with my dad he was unloading the gun after we had walked back up to the trailer. There was a group of people there and he was unloading the gun and when he took it off safety, the gun went off. He had it pointed away from everyone and it hit the porch, but missed a huge propane tank by just a few inches. We love the gun and dont want to get rid of it...is there a fix to this? I'd hate to retire this gun as it's accurate as can be.
They make numerous replacement trigger upgrades, that i plan on putting on my 308. Dubois had a problem about his trigger sticking or hanging on cold morning so he replaced it and loves the new trigger.

Still think model 700 is the best gun produced for the money.
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby deltadukman » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:22 am

MudHog wrote:not making an excuse, but this is why we are taught to always keep a gun pointed in a safe direction.

Exactly...and it was...but scared my pops so bad, and effed his head up, that he really hasnt hunted much since then. Last night he called and told me to turn it on. We had never heard of this problem. He was in awe thinking this whole time that someway, somehow he was irresponsible with the gun. It messed him up bad with all of us standing there and how close he came to potentially killing someone. Happed to me one time with the same gun, but I was drawing down on a deer.
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Re: FYI: Remington 700

Postby deltadukman » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:23 am

munyoz70 wrote:
deltadukman wrote:I have one and it has done it twice, but when it happened we didnt know about this problem. We are big sticklers on gun safety and both times it happend we wondered "what did we do wrong". Once with my dad he was unloading the gun after we had walked back up to the trailer. There was a group of people there and he was unloading the gun and when he took it off safety, the gun went off. He had it pointed away from everyone and it hit the porch, but missed a huge propane tank by just a few inches. We love the gun and dont want to get rid of it...is there a fix to this? I'd hate to retire this gun as it's accurate as can be.
They make numerous replacement trigger upgrades, that i plan on putting on my 308. Dubois had a problem about his trigger sticking or hanging on cold morning so he replaced it and loves the new trigger.

Still think model 700 is the best gun produced for the money.

I'm not so sure that its a trigger upgrade that would help. May have to be a trigger and or safety issue. Since yall are so busy, check on that and see what we have to do get it fixed. Dont let pops get rid of that gun.

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