FYI: Remington 700

[dukluk]

not making an excuse, but this is why we are taught to always keep a gun pointed in a safe direction.

I agree, but that's no excuse for Rem. to refuse a recall to fix these rifles....it was a 5.5 cent fix, when the defect was discovered.

I, too, think the 700 is one of the most accurate rifles ever produced, and would never think of getting rid of it, but I'll be extra careful with it from now on....I really took notice last night, when the military sniper school showed video footage of the 700 accidentally discharging without pulling the trigger....they've quit using the 700.

[mille011]

I sent mine back top Remington for the fix. I had to pay shipping, but that was it. Was not a quick fix, but wanted it done by the company.

[TODO]

Ive got two 700 mountain rifles, one was my dad's and is prolly a 1985 or so model and another that is about a 2002 model. Never had an issue with either. My cousin did about kill me about 15 years ago with a Knight muzzleloader. We were walking down a logging road, i bent down to lace my boot and he hit the safety forward and it shot. Shot above my head about a foot. If that wasnt devine intervention i dont know what is. Retired the Knight shortly thereafter.

[cwink]

I know Rem did a recall back in the 80s for this problem. My dad sent his mohawk back. It would go off when you closed the bolt about every other time.. Sure made nice awakening in the deer blind when that thing went off.

[goosebruce]

Most of the time shows like that are so lopsided trying to make out a bad guy, they quit being informative. I didnt feel like that last night, I felt like oh my gosh. They showed memos from 1946, BEFORE the gun ever went into production, from the man who invented the gun, about him forseeing this problem. They talked to him last night, he's 98 now and he point blank told the interviewer, it was a problem. When asked if it was about greed, he replied, no, he thought stupidity. They even showed memos from the late 50's, when then deisgner asked the corprate peeps to quit calling it a safety, and call it a trigger interrupter, so they wouldnt give people a false sense of security. They had 3 or 4 videos on the show showing the freggin gun going off, when the safety was taken off, or someone tried to move the bolt after a hang fire. Wild.
The couple that the wife killed their son when she was unloading the gun and he was on the other side of the horse trailer was very moving. To hear their story, man their aint nothing you can think but screw big green. travis

[deltadukman]

Yeah I thought it was going to be very one sided and chocked full of liberal bs trying to attack one of the most popular guns and gun makers, but it wasnt and I was impressed.

[munyoz70]

I have one and it has done it twice, but when it happened we didnt know about this problem. We are big sticklers on gun safety and both times it happend we wondered "what did we do wrong". Once with my dad he was unloading the gun after we had walked back up to the trailer. There was a group of people there and he was unloading the gun and when he took it off safety, the gun went off. He had it pointed away from everyone and it hit the porch, but missed a huge propane tank by just a few inches. We love the gun and dont want to get rid of it...is there a fix to this? I'd hate to retire this gun as it's accurate as can be.

They make numerous replacement trigger upgrades, that i plan on putting on my 308. Dubois had a problem about his trigger sticking or hanging on cold morning so he replaced it and loves the new trigger.

Still think model 700 is the best gun produced for the money.

I'm not so sure that its a trigger upgrade that would help. May have to be a trigger and or safety issue. Since yall are so busy, check on that and see what we have to do get it fixed. Dont let pops get rid of that gun.

Never been inside a 700 trigger but if its like my anchutz and other guns ive done the trigger goes hand and hand with the safty. and you know we aint in the gun selling business.

[Scully]

Not to change the subject, but I had a Mossberg 935 that would do the same thing. I know gun safety is drilled into people's heads, but it only takes a split second for tragedity to happen- keep em pointed in a safe direction.

[Seymore]

I sold my model 700 years ago when the problem hit the media in the 80's. I've used a model 70 ever since and have never had problem one out of them. They ain't called the rifleman's rifle for nothing. Of course I'm biased towards them. Thought the world had ended when they quit making them but it was just a labor dispute issue and they went back to making them in a year or two.

[quack fiend]

When I was a chap, we had an unaltered 700 .243 that my dad hunted with that about 1/3 of the time would go off when you took the safety off, and could be made to go off the other 2/3's if you just touched the bolt handle after flicking the safety off. What do I have now? Savages, 70's, howas, mauser 98's. No issues with any of my 30+ other rifles.

[marshmaniac]

Alright. How do I find out if I have a bad one. Bought my wife a 700 .270 10 years or so ago. Haven't shot it a whole lot (maybe 1 box), but it did go off on her one morning in the shooting house. Scared her bout to death and she couldn't hear for days. She is very safe with a gun and I was shocked that she would have accidentally shot it like that. She even said she didn't know why it went off cause she wasn't messing with the trigger. I just figured she did it and didn't realize it. This thread has gotten me to thinking.

[BR549]

Im gonna say something here. I've been working remington triggers for a long time. I've had several go off from either slammin the bolt down or someone pulling the trigger with the saftey on and then flippin the safty off. I've had my own guns go off occasionally from having the tension to light or the creep to short. But I have never seen a Model 700 go off that didn't have a problem! It may be something as simple as the seals on the screws got old and allowed the creep or sear adjustments to move. But there has always been a problem when one went off. The reason it wasn't recalled is because this was a maintenence issue. If someone really knows their gun and is aqainted with it like they SHOULD be you will notice this BEFORE it happens. Older Remington triggers with the 2 screws in em cannot be manipulated nearly as safely as the newer ones with the 3 screw adjustments. Now Remington is not even using a trigger designed by them. Haven't in several years. Most people jack with the triggers not knowing what they are doing and the problem comes from there. A factory Remington trigger cannot be safely lightend to less than 40oz. If yours is less than that then KNOW it can and MAY go off unexpectantly. I know many a hunter shoot thiers with was less trigger pull than that. Myself included! I have one at a mere 12oz. Breath on it and it's gone! But it will go off on you from time to time if you are not careful. Safety first is a must. No excuse in accidently allowing a gun to discharge and killing or shooting someone! That was neglegence plain and simple!

[Luckydawg]

I have a Rem. 600,suppose to be similar to the Mohawk, that I got a year or two ago. I had researched and was aware of the problem beforehand. I then sent it to Gander Mountain in Jax, TN and it was repaired under the recall for free. I f you have a 600 you can look at the trigger assembly and see if it has been fixed. Where the trigger goes into the housing you will see a cut-out that looks like part of the letter "c" if it has been fixed. You can call Remington to see if your rifle falls under the recall. Google it, there are several reports and illustrations about this on the web.

[Luckydawg]

I have a Rem. 600,suppose to be similar to the Mohawk, that I got a year or two ago. I had researched and was aware of the problem beforehand. I then sent it to Gander Mountain in Jax, TN and it was repaired under the recall for free. I f you have a 600 you can look at the trigger assembly and see if it has been fixed. Where the trigger goes into the housing you will see a cut-out that looks like part of the letter "c" if it has been fixed. You can call Remington to see if your rifle falls under the recall. Google it, there are several reports and illustrations about this on the web.