Is Cam Clean?

[Bankermane]

Cam went to Auburn because they had a better Medical school than MSU. Nothing to do with money or football.

[Plainsman04]

I normally don't bite on all of the conspiracy theory mess like this, but I think there are too many coincidences in this matter for something not to have happened.

The most alarming evidence to me is that John Bond quoted a number to the AD of state that almost exactly approximates what it cost to fix Cecil Newton's church which was about to be razed if not brought up to code. That is circumstantial but alarming evidence to me.

Throw in the fact that the Newton's know this random guy from Chicago. Then mix in the allegation that UT led for Newton and Kiffin all of the sudden quit recruiting him altogether. Throw in the fact that Cecil decided Newton's destination, coupled with the fact that Auburn came out of nowhere to sign him. You then think about the fact that Auburn very nearly signed the TOP THREE running backs in the nation in one class last year. Then you think about the fact that Trooper Taylor has already been accused of secondary violations since being at AU.

It is not hard to connect dots when they are in a straight line...I think AU gets hammered over this and I also think this may only be the tip of the mountain with other players receiving payments too.

The Newtons met Kenny Rogers on their visit to Miss. St. and from all credible accounts never associated themselves with him. UT was not in the lead for Newton. It was Miss. St. or Auburn the whole time. Please don't insinuate that Kiffin, of all people, would've been scared off by some fishy stuff. Auburn was in the running for the top 3 backs in the nation last year because they're known to produce great running backs. They got Dyer, Lattimore went with his home state school, and Seastrunk couldn't stop flirting with every girl at the dance. The secondary violations with TT also related to an event Seastrunk attended so the university decided it was best to let him go rather than push the boundaries. The secondary violations related to calling out a player's name in public at an impromptu pep rally. Big whoop. Most schools have secondary violations every year that result in a bunch of nothing besides paperwork.

Look, the NCAA & SEC have known about this since July. It's been investigated. Cecil Newton turned over his personal & church financial records to the NCAA for review. If they've known about it since July and they thought there was a problem, Cam Newton would've been ruled ineligible months ago. This is only a story because Bond & Urban Meyer decided it needed to be. Sure takes a lot of the media scrutiny off Meyer for losing Newton & having a crappy season this year doesn't it? Auburn isn't going to get hammered for this. The issue is between Bond, Rogers, & MSU. Auburn has (because of past transgressions) one of the most cautious compliance departments in the country. Hell they almost ran off the basketball coach a month ago because of some stuff with a walk on. You don't hear of many schools own compliance departments being harder on the school than the NCAA. Auburn's clear in all this, but it sure does make good fodder for the fandom. The worst thing to come out of this for Auburn is bad PR and probably damaging Cam Newton's Heisman prospects, which is unfortunate because that means he's just gonna have to score even more to overcome it!

[adame]

Keep drinking that koolaid

[Deltamud77]

The Newtons met Kenny Rogers on their visit to Miss. St. and from all credible accounts never associated themselves with him. UT was not in the lead for Newton. It was Miss. St. or Auburn the whole time. Please don't insinuate that Kiffin, of all people, would've been scared off by some fishy stuff.
Look, the NCAA & SEC have known about this since July. It's been investigated. Cecil Newton turned over his personal & church financial records to the NCAA for review. If they've known about it since July and they thought there was a problem, Cam Newton would've been ruled ineligible months ago. This is only a story because Bond & Urban Meyer decided it needed to be.

Newton has already admitted to knowing Rogers since Cam was at Florida. So you are wrong there. UT was in the lead for Newton...there have been links all of the interweb today to rivals pages and quotes on just this topic. The fact that the NCAA is still investigating means that this is not over. Bond was just on an Atlanta radio station and said Myer had nothing to do with anything.

Look, I don't have a dog in the hunt. I hope that it turns out to be false because it makes the SEC look horrible. However, there is a ton of circumstantial evidence floating around that can be linked together.

[riverat]

Honestly i think cam is clean, now Cecil on the other hand is one dirty mo fo.

There is no way Cecil is dirty. He is a preacher. They are never do wrong, just the right reverend Jesse Jackson.

Pond

The Deacons were counting the offering plate money in January at Cecil's church.....$5, $20, $10, $200,000, $7, $15

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!! that's good stuff right there

them financial statements dont have no cash box on dem and the dirty preacha betta be a fetching him a good lawya and a dirty accountant

I do believe Auburn will be clean in this but a booster is gonna get his pants pulled down......

[MSDawg870]

The worst thing to come out of this for Auburn is bad PR and probably damaging Cam Newton's Heisman prospects, which is unfortunate because that means he's just gonna have to score even more to overcome it!

You HOPE!

[digger]

There was a segmant on Real Sport's the other nite about this (not about Cam) but the problem in general.Guy use to be an agent and told he did it and never got caught showed money order's to some of the player's he paid.He said it went on everyday and that the people in charge of keeping a check seemed not to care til there was a complaint and they had to.

[big gumbo]

so here is what some dude named Moore, a scout.com employee (who broke Saban to Alabama before anyone else), posted on the mainboard (emphasis added by me):

I have never been one to throw stones or report on things that aren't true. Roughly 6 weeks ago the NCAA met with a very close and personal friend of mine (I won't mention the name) who once played for an SEC team in regard to the recruitment of Cam Newton. As the investigation has now taken center stage, all I can do is verify that money was indeed offered to Newton from no less than 3 SEC schools, and it's alleged by the NCAA that Newton and or his family took $200,000 to attend Auburn. I know the NCAA personally interviewed my friend for nearly 3 hours one month ago in regard to this investigation. His words were this from an NCAA investigator, "This is not going to end well for Auburn University".


People have been asking about the Chronological order of this NCAA investigation. Below is what I know to be fact.

6 weeks ago The NCAA interviewed MSU associates at a Jackson MS Hotel about the recruitment of Cam Newton. Newton was set to attend MSU and was released of his scholarship by Florida coach Urban Meyer. Dan Mullen was going to take Newton at MSU and there was an understanding that Newton would indeed play for the Bulldogs. About 3 weeks before signing day, Newton was approached by associates of the University of Tennessee and offered 150 K to play football for the Vols. Auburn entered the discussion and according to Newton's father had been offered the sum of 180K to attend Auburn. This was communicated to Miss State Heach Coach Dan Mullen and several associates close to the Miss State program. Mullen was outraged by the development's as was Head Coach Urban Meyer at Florida and it was Meyer an Mullen who eventually turned Auburn in to the NCAA . It was apparent that to them, Newton's signing with Auburn was indeed questionable. This story was told to the NCAA 6 weeks ago in Jackson MS. As far as any Auburn officials or coaches that are involved that I will not say. I will say the name of Trooper Taylor has NOT been mentioned any of the information that I know as of right now. There is much more to this story as you can imagine.

This is not going to turn out well for Cam Newton or Auburn. And once again. CAM Newton was NOT out pimping his services but it appears that his father ( based on my information) was.

[smith]

Well gumbo said it.....it must be true! I'm sure everyone is taking what you say as gospel seeing as you are so well respected on here.

[BR549]

Well gumbo said it.....it must be true! I'm sure everyone is taking what you say as gospel seeing as you are so well respected on here.

Hey smartass, not just trying to take up for. Gumbo here but how many times have u seen him just dead wrong about this kinda stuff? Not many I can tell you! And when he has bee he has openly admitted it too! Lot better track record than most on here! It aint crowin if u can back it up! He was damn sure right about Nutt!

[big gumbo]

Well gumbo said it.....it must be true! I'm sure everyone is taking what you say as gospel seeing as you are so well respected on here.

Hey smartass, not just trying to take up for. Gumbo here but how many times have u seen him just dead wrong about this kinda stuff? Not many I can tell you! And when he has bee he has openly admitted it too! Lot better track record than most on here! It aint crowin if u can back it up! He was damn sure right about Nutt!

I really haven't took a position on this. Just sharing what I've read from various places.


I know what I know about Dyer and his handler named Walt Williams and the outfit he ran called Pinnacle Preps and his ties to Malzahn.

I shared that Scout.com employee post from a poster at Woopig. Woopiggers ain't into getting their copyright azzes in a bind over it. We arkies really ain't got a beef in this other than just watching the bodies fall. It's a bit amusing really. What we do find interesting is that Tubberville won, what, 85% of his games and got run off. I remember one of the asst. coach's wife getting on the radio saying one reason they got ran was they wouldn't cheat to outrecruit Saban. Tubby's classes were always solid and with some success to show from it but he didn't recruit like Cheezit is. Now, Cheezit sucked donkey balls at Iowa St. He got that job cause he's willing to be a yes man, I'm told by some Springdalenistas that he nothing to do with hiring Malzahn. How in the hell are we suppose to believe that a man with a losing record, a horrible one at that, comes in and starts recruiting like he does. Are we supposed to believe the thrill of teepee'ing a dayum tree is the secret? Pleeze. It's one thing to give a player money for a plane ticket or a couple hundred bucks for a summer job and flat out throwing hundred of thousands of dollars around.

From what I've seen so far, Bama got mauled for Albert Means and this story seems every bit as believable as that one

[smith]

Br1234, I know your praying this is all true. I know gumbo has his inside people. Well my inside sources say newton wouldn't have stepped on the field if there was a chance of any wrong doin. If it is true though then you can quit saying how state almost won and got out of the toilet in the sec west. Until then just sit back and watch the show.

[BR549]

Br1234, I know your praying this is all true. I know gumbo has his inside people. Well my inside sources say newton wouldn't have stepped on the field if there was a chance of any wrong doin. If it is true though then you can quit saying how state almost won and got out of the toilet in the sec west. Until then just sit back and watch the show.

Well if u look back at some of my older post you would see we are just about spot on where I said we would be. Sittin at 7 wins and if we got lucky maybe 8. We far from the toileto but even if we were still there I'd rather be there for being legit than to buy our way out of it! Is Newton dirty? I have no clueo quite frankly could care less. He's good, no doubt but with that cloud hangin over him I sure as hell wuldnt want him right now. I really think u are fixin to see state back on the map in the next few years. We may not win a N/C but then again only one ut of 120 some odd schools can anyhow. We'll win our share of games and be just as proud of our Bulldogs as anyone is their own school.

[smith]

Not trying to be rude but back on the map?? I've never knew they were ever on one. I cheer for state bc I think mullen is a stand up guy and is a great coach. Goodluck the rest of the season and I hope they rep the sec in a bowl game. I can see bama hoping the cam story is true bc its a rivalry, but other sec teams doesn't make much sense bc each team benefits from the other doing good. Everyone gets big money from a bcs bowl win. Everyone shall see soon enough though, and I hope I'm right lol.

[MSDawg870]

To the original question, is CAM clean? Fooock naw