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[Don Miller]

I don't fear the ones I can see. I fear the ones I almosted stepped on. I certainly don't want them around my house or in it as was the case up at duck camp last fall. Yes, I have a phobia when it come to snakes, the same as I do for lightning. My brain tells me not to stand out in a lightning storm to admire it.....same with snakes!

[Chuckle12]

We killed two cottonmouths a few years ago out at the farm, both measured over 50 inches, one of them measured nearly 55". I got a pic of both of 'em laid out next to a measuring tape. And yes, I said we KILLED them, shot 'em deader than a doornail. They were making a mudhole of a pond their home and decided that the calves that watered there were not their friends. Never bit a cow, but had a field day on 3 different calves. Two of them were all right after a week or two, but we had a 3-legged cow (no joke, had to cut the leg off) hobbling around the farm until sale time. Out in the woods, 99% of the time I pass on by a snake without a second thought. But out on the farm, unless it is a non-poisonous snake around the barn, they don't make it too long after we see 'em. Call me what you will (scared, wuss, whatever), but I would be willing to bet you have never had to hack off the bottom half of a calf's front leg because of a damn moccasin.

[dukbum]

hold em still benny iam trying to get my bead on him.....

[RDB]

Man we sure need a hunting season of some sort to open, you guys need to vent some built up frustration somewhere!!!!

Rip'em... I have to agree with all you said... I personally don't kill harmless snakes anymore but I reserve the right to start back anytime. As for my 6 yr old hunting partner (Daddy's Bubba!)...he can shoot them all he wants.

I think alot of you are looking too deep in the snake killing... let the youngins be youngins... we all did it when we were young too..and you know it. If you didn't then you didn't grow up a country boy.

If you want to vent some frustration....get on PETA's ass or something, not someone who will put more into the hunting society, $$$$ and time, than PETA ever will.

[MSDuckmen]

we all did it when we were young too..and you know it. If you didn't then you didn't grow up a country boy.

That is the point RDB,
Many kids smoked when I was growing up is that OK too?
Many kids used alcohol/drugs is that exceptible?

Just cause everyone may have done it at some point doesn't make it right. The concept here is that life has value. The kids were doing what kids do, But where is the guidence and what is exceptible and what isn't.
Where does it stop? turtles, cranes, blackbirds, songbirds, etc etc etc.

These boys are probalbly fine kids but wouldn't the picture been just as good with them holding a live snake?

Thanks for the PETA label.

[RDB]

Many kids smoked when I was growing up is that OK too?
Many kids used alcohol/drugs is that exceptible?

In these two questions you have two words that said it all....

growing up

Where does it stop? turtles, cranes, blackbirds, songbirds, etc etc etc.

It's all a part of growing up. Sometimes we learn from things we did wrong, no wait let me rephrase that, all of the time we learn from things we did wrong. It's called growing up and yes most people do grow up. All I'm saying is not to chastize somebody for something you did too. Would kind of make you hypocritical if you did. Letting youngins learn from their mistakes is sometimes better than trying to keep them from doing it in the first place.

Not sure what you meant by the PETA thing

[MSDuckmen]

So I take it I should not chastise my daughter for making mistakes because I did the same thing?

Dang I've been doing things all wrong.
I thought I was supposed to educate my kids so that they don't make the same mistakes I did. For some reason I was under the impression I was suppose to protect them and teach them right from wrong from my own past experiences.

Think I will go home tonight and tell them I've been wrong all this time.
They need to go to the store and buy a pack of cigarettes and beer, drink till they can't walk and call their boy friends over for a quickie. Yeah that's the ticket.

[Chuckle12]

Dan, I understand what you are saying but I think it is a far stretch to put smoking/drinking/doing drugs on the same level as shooting a snake. Believe it or not I understand the respect you have for an animals life, but they are learning to shoot and hunt. They key word here is learning. I just don't think it was necessary to jump all over the boys like some did. They are probably more negativley influenced by reading these posts than most people think. Most of the posts are attacking them rather than informing them. That's not necessarily the best teaching tool, you know what I mean? In fact, most of the time it does more harm than good.

Shooting harmless snakes is for stupid people with little nuts and too many bullets, period.

Damn shame about the chicken snake. They must have been real proud...

A couple of punks kill a non-poisonous snake, and you'd think they had done us all proud.

Both of those guys are members of this forum, reading this stuff just like we are. Do ya'll really think that is helping them? Lead them in the right direction, let them know what you think, tell them how you feel, but don't belittle a kid because he shot a snake. Would ya'll say the same thing to your kid if he shot a dang water snake? We're talking about someone's younger brother here, remember that.

[RDB]

MsDuckmen

No you should comfort her and tell/explain to her not to do it again when she does try a cigarette, or does come home drunk, or does do a quickee with her boyfriend while you are in the bedroom asleep because whether or not you believe it she either already has or probably will try these things along with many others no matter how much preaching and god fearing you put into her. And you should also explain that you too made the same bad decisions when you where young and you only want better for her. I never said anywhere not to try to teach our kids good moral values and wrong from right but sometimes no matter how much you expend your energy on trying to do this, they still want to explore, it's nature. I'm pretty sure your father preached and tried to teach you wrong from right, told you not to do this and not to do that, but you did some of the things anyway like most of us have. If YOU didn't then you are one in a million (being a little reserved on that figure too).

I think you're trying to dig too deep in this topic MsDuckmen, alot of the time the answer is right under your nose. I'm sorry I don't look at things the same way you do but rather look at them for what they really are. Reality is real whether you believe it or not. I don't try to portray things like I want them to be, I portray them like they actually happen in the real world.

[sportsman450]

Both of those guys are members of this forum, reading this stuff just like we are. Do ya'll really think that is helping them? Lead them in the right direction, let them know what you think, tell them how you feel, but don't belittle a kid because he shot a snake. Would ya'll say the same thing to your kid if he shot a dang water snake? We're talking about someone's younger brother here, remember that.

Chuckle--If my use of the term "punks" was too harsh, I appologize.The problem I have is more with the adults who condone this type thing instead of trying to correct it. These guys that think the only good snake is a dead snake should talk to a wildlife biologist or two. It has nothing to do with PETA like tendencies. It's simply knowledge that they are a vital part of an ecosystem.

[brake man]

Wow.....what an amazing amount of testosterone coming out over shooting a snake. Do I think folks should just go out and shoot snakes, birds, etc. just for the sake of it any time they want to do so? No. Have I shot snakes myself when they are not an imminent threat or maybe turtles or other critters for no good reason? Yeah, I probably have. However, there a lot more times when I am going through the woods or elsewhere that I will let the critters go on their way without harassing them. In my book, cottonmouths and copperheads don't get a hall pass if they are close by and I am armed, but most other stuff does. Does that make me a horrible, callous, immature person? Sounds as if it does with some folks around here, but not in my book.

[RIP EM]

Well,.... After all this Hoopla, over a stankin snake,.... I'm not about to post my pictures of last weekends Gator Hunt !
........... Being them dog eating sons-uh-bitches are so vital to the ecosystem, ....... wouldn't wanna go and hurt anybodys lil ol feelings over a reptile as magnificent as the mighty gator !
Hell fellas,.... Tits on a boar hog, would be of more use than a gator !

Here's what ya'll are drivin at,....... Don't shoot the gators, you say, cause they keep the turtles and snakes in check !

Here's what I'm drivin at,........ Kill all the gators I possibly can, then get PONDBUSTER and his partner to come over and shoot all the Turtles and snakes that have become overpopulated, due to the absence of the gators,... which is WHAT DA HELL I WANTED IN THE FIRST PLACE ! (NO GATORS)

ALL OF THIS,... JUST TO KEEP MY DOG FROM GETTIN HIS booty EAT UP !!!

GIVE ME A BREAK !!!

Don't ya'll really think these guys will come around to your way of thinkin, in due time ? I just think some of us got a little too rough with em !
I'd personally, rather see them standin there with that snake,... than wearing a set of handcuffs, being hauled away to jail, for selling Meth., or pot or what have ya ! There is a lot worse things these young men coulda been into than shootin a blithering snake !

Rip Em !

[Canton_Coot_Killer]

Good grief, this whole forum is a holier than thou forum... The boys killed a snake near their camp... so the hell what????

Next subject....

[um_rebel]

how many snake lovers here have ever been bitten by one? no snake lover here, but i was bitten by a cottonmouth bout 4 years ago... andy snake should be KILLED!!!

[webfoot]

I remember being young.