HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby southdeltan » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:19 pm

Wildfowler wrote:Does this mean my red rockets ( Bud heavy ) are now gonna have more alcohol in them?
No, it should not. Budweiser is 5% in most states, including MS. This will just allow beers that are currently illegal to be sold in the state. Budweiser is pretty lightweight when compared to something like an Imperial Stout or a Barleywine which can have over 10% alcohol.

Budweiser is an American Pale Lager, like most mass produced beers in America are (Bud, Miller, Coors). They're brewed to be easy to drink and typically lagers have less alcohol than ales.

Right now, only about 15 of the top 100 beers on www.beeradvocate.com are legal in MS. Raising the limit will legalize about 70 of them.

The beers that are currently here won't change, and the beers that will be legalized aren't typically ones that people binge drink on. Craft beer is more expensive - people who want to get drunk quick/cheap aren't going to be buying this - most of it has a much different flavor to what the average beer drinker is used to.

It makes little sense to me that this cap is still in place when I can go to the liquor store and by liquor that is 40%, 50%, 75.5% or even 95%.
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby gator » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:35 pm

southdeltan wrote:It makes little sense to me that this cap is still in place when I can go to the liquor store and by liquor that is 40%, 50%, 75.5% or even 95%.
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby southdeltan » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:37 pm

Besides the Senate and House Bills to raise the ABW from 5% to 8% (which is 6.25% to 10.1% by volume), there's the homebrew bills and a few others:

http://www.hbamm.org/beerlist/
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby Smoke68 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:43 pm

And to anyone who says passing this bill will be a slippery slope and that soon it'll lead to bills with 10-12%, I say..........


that's the point.
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby donia » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:56 pm

....i'm remaining quietly optimistic, until he final gavel falls......

please..please..please..please..please..please..please....'cause if gas does get to $5/gal, i'm'a hafta' start a lil "high gravity" black market to offset fuel costs for the (3hr one way) runs north or east!!!
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby Wildfowler » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:12 pm

southdeltan wrote:people who want to get drunk quick/cheap aren't going to be buying this
Are you calling me a drunk because I like red rockets? :wink:
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby southdeltan » Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:49 pm

Wildfowler wrote:
southdeltan wrote:people who want to get drunk quick/cheap aren't going to be buying this
Are you calling me a drunk because I like red rockets? :wink:
Nope. People that want to get drunk quick and cheap don't even buy "expensive" beer like Budweiser.
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby Lazy Drake » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:15 am

This thing kept dying every year because budweiser put the no on it and is in alot of politicians pockets. They have changed their stance because they want a piece of the pie and it will probably make it this year.

Very hypocritical of the baptist to vote down 8% beer when you can go buy freaking everclear at the liquor store. If we could remove the baptist from MS it would be a much better place.
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby Deltaquack » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:54 am

Now some will get to try the likes of 3 Floyd's, Kuhnenn, and Stone. 3 Floyd's makes some awesome stuff....but none of it in the 5.5 range I wouldn't think. Any of y'all had any Westvleteren or Rochefort's?
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby fireplug » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:03 am

Lazy Drake wrote: If we could remove the baptist from MS it would be a much better place.

Easy now.... I resemble that remark. I'm all for any % beer people want in Ms. I'm sure if you polled most Baptist you would have a majority that were
for it or didn't care either way. There will be some that would be against it just because they are against alcohol period, but don't bash baptist. It's more
of a generational thing than a religous denomonation.
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby Natty » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:08 am

fireplug wrote:
Lazy Drake wrote: If we could remove the baptist from MS it would be a much better place.

Easy now.... I resemble that remark. I'm all for any % beer people want in Ms. I'm sure if you polled most Baptist you would have a majority that were
for it or didn't care either way. There will be some that would be against it just because they are against alcohol period, but don't bash baptist. It's more
of a generational thing than a religous denomonation.

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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby farmerc83 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:11 am

Lazy Drake wrote:Very hypocritical of the baptist to vote down 8% beer when you can go buy freaking everclear at the liquor store. If we could remove the baptist from MS it would be a much better place.
Get your point, but your statement is a little broad and misplaced...esp after your first point blamed Budweiser for the delay in the higher limits. Every young baptist I know drinks, and drinks more than a drink or two at a time. Most of them want pot legalized, too, even if they don't smoke. Besides, you think only baptist vote? Guarantee there are more catholics, pres's, methodist and episcopalians than there are baptist in MS.
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby peewee » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:26 am

I am baptist and could care less if this passed or not. Folks love barking up the baptist tree when most haven't stepped foot in a church for a worship service in years. I know many baptist that support this bill. Just like whats posted above, you wont see too many drunks going out buying specialty beers, they aint going to pay for it. I heard the Steve Holland clip yesterday and just like every other time he opens his mouth he makes North East Mississippians look stupid for keeping his corrupt butt in office.
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby donia » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:26 am

i think it is more about generation than denomination....the committee that it has to go through used to be chaired by a gentleman from the "older" generation, where the new chairman is from a "younger" generation

*much akin to starkville's cold beer laws for years....for decades and decades, the "older" generation kept starkville a "spinner" town (for those that have never had to do it, it is spinning a hot beer in ice to chill it quickly), then a "younger" generation took office and voted in cold beer, and soon after, sunday sales.
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Re: HB 1422 8% beer in MS!

Postby farmerc83 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:39 pm

donia wrote:i think it is more about generation than denomination....the committee that it has to go through used to be chaired by a gentleman from the "older" generation, where the new chairman is from a "younger" generation

*much akin to starkville's cold beer laws for years....for decades and decades, the "older" generation kept starkville a "spinner" town (for those that have never had to do it, it is spinning a hot beer in ice to chill it quickly), then a "younger" generation took office and voted in cold beer, and soon after, sunday sales.

Hard to not be a fan of local and state govts putting the power back in the hands of people and private businesses....esp when common sense is on the people's side. Maybe the older generation was just better at compromise, but what sense does it make to not sell it cold, over whatever %, on Sunday or not in one county when they sell it in the one right next to it? If drunks are as d@mned and determined to get drunk on a Sunday as prohibitionist seem to think, then driving a county over, putting it on ice for 30 minutes and drinking a couple more cans to get the same amount of alcohol is not going to get in their way. It's also humorous that when these "blue laws" were implemented, the penalty for a DUI probably cost less than the wrecker to pull your car out of the ditch.
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