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Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:36 am
by duramax
muddylab wrote:not redfish its red snapper. Please see below to the nine reference. the capains down there call the nine miles and in INSHORE
May
Red Snapper Season 2012
The 2012 Gulf of Mexico red snapper recreational harvest season begins June 1 in state and federal waters. The last day of the 40-day season is July 10.
This year’s state season, which is the same as the 2012 federal recreational red snapper season in the Gulf of Mexico, was set in May at the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission meeting.
Florida state waters in the Gulf extend from shore to nine nautical miles; federal waters extend beyond that line to 200 nautical miles.
The Gulf red snapper stock is improving, but the population still needs an increase in the number of older fish for it to be sustainable. Red snapper are estimated to live more than 50 years, but the current stock consists primarily of fish that are only a few years old. Older fish are the key to rebuilding the population, because older female red snapper produce more eggs than younger females. This season will help continue to rebuild the red snapper population so that more red snapper fishing opportunities will be possible in the future.
In State waters does not mean "inshore". Nobody considers a red snapper an "inshore" fish. Mutton or mangrove's are the only snapper typically caught while inshore fishing. Fishing one of those giant boats you went on isn't "inshore" fishing in anyone's book.
Inshore fishing is simply light tackle, shallow water fishing, typically wading or in small boats. Nothing more or nothing less. Inshore guides often take folks to fish bouys for triple tail, nearby wrecks for snapper, or short way off the beach for Cobia if conditions allow, but it's not "inshore" fishing.
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:38 am
by muddylab
Duramax. i thought like you did. but I was there last week. talked to captains and that is their take and what inshore means to them.
Bay fishing is what your describing.
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:42 am
by muddylab
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:48 am
by duramax
muddylab wrote:http://www.destin-inshore-fishing.com/Destin_Inshore___Inland_Bay___Light_Tackle_Fishing_Charters/Lets_go_Fishing.html
appears we are both wrong and right.
I'm not sure how I'm wrong. You were the one saying fishing bays was not inshore fishing somehow.
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:10 am
by muddylab
DUDE whatever.
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:26 am
by duramax
muddylab wrote:DUDE whatever.
muddylab wrote:Duramax. i thought like you did. but I was there last week. talked to captains and that is their take and what inshore means to them.
Bay fishing is what your describing.
You are searching the internet for definitions that somehow make you less wrong. Talk to any real inshore guide or fisherman. Legends of the Lower Marsh is a member on this site and a guide on the coast and fishes redfish tournaments. Simply PM him and ask what he would descibe inshore fishing as.
Most importantly, ask GREENHEADMAN, who started this thread, as to what he meant when asking about inshore fishing trip. I'm certain he didn't mean getting on a massive boat with 50 other people bottom fishing as you suggested. Because that's not inshore fishing.
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:25 am
by Bill Cooksey
It's been a year since I fished Destin, and it seems much has changed. Just so I get it right next time, is the following now correct?
1) The bottom fishing I did for snapper last year is now called "inshore snapper fishing."
2) The inshore fishing I did for redfish and specks is now called "bay fishing" whether we're in a bay or not.
3) #2 doesn't matter since redfish and specks don't bite in the hot weather anymore anyway.
Guys, inshore is a "catch-all" for a variety of fishing styles. Bay, flats, beach and several others fall under the heading. Prime species, depending on location, are specks, reds, snook, flounder, tarpon, bonefish and permit. Jacks, blues, ladyfish and Spanish are a couple of the common less desireable species often caught inshore.
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:39 am
by deltadukman
The sky is blue....
Carry on
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:41 am
by duramax
Bill Cooksey wrote:It's been a year since I fished Destin, and it seems much has changed. Just so I get it right next time, is the following now correct?
1) The bottom fishing I did for snapper last year is now called "inshore snapper fishing."
2) The inshore fishing I did for redfish and specks is now called "bay fishing" whether we're in a bay or not.
3) #2 doesn't matter since redfish and specks don't bite in the hot weather anymore anyway.
Guys, inshore is a "catch-all" for a variety of fishing styles. Bay, flats, beach and several others fall under the heading. Prime species, depending on location, are specks, reds, snook, flounder, tarpon, bonefish and permit. Jacks, blues, ladyfish and Spanish are a couple of the common less desireable species often caught inshore.
Who knew right? And if you go to fish ship Island, it's now considered offshore because it's over 12 miles from the main land.
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:51 am
by muddylab
i didnt suggest a 50 foot boat. i went wtth the guys whose website i posted. No searching the internet as you suggest.
i was on a 26 foot center console with a real fishing guide.
it was a great trip. The owner and captain told me that inshore is normailly referred to as nine miles and in.
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:02 pm
by Bill Cooksey
Muddy,
Not trying to be rude, but I've never booked an inshore trip that took me more than half a mile from the beach unless we were making a run to some islands, and I've booked a lot of inshore trips. I'd suggest you double checking with guides you book in the future just to make sure you are both on the same wavelength. A lot of inshore guides will take folks out a little way in perfect conditions to bottom fish, but that's not the general opinion of what inshore fishing really is.
Also remember, just because the guy is a "real fishing guide" doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. An example would be if he told you that fishing for specks and reds in that area was horrible right now. It's pretty dang good right now if you are with the right folks.
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:06 pm
by duramax
muddylab wrote:i didnt suggest a 50 foot boat. i went wtth the guys whose website i posted. No searching the internet as you suggest.
i was on a 26 foot center console with a real fishing guide.
it was a great trip. The owner and captain told me that inshore is normailly referred to as nine miles and in.
My appologies. I mistook muddy650 for you when he suggested a boat to go bottom fishing with 50 people.
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:11 am
by swamprooter
Seems Muddy is only one with recent knowledge and success and reccommends a guide that can put u on fish. I am taking his advice.
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:31 am
by Bill Cooksey
swamprooter wrote:Seems Muddy is only one with recent knowledge and success and reccommends a guide that can put u on fish. I am taking his advice.
Not really. We were just having a disagreement about what kind of fishing the OP was asking about. If bottom fishing less than a mile from the beach is your thing, the boat behind the kids in this photo limited every day of snapper season. With snapper closing he'll be catching other species just as well.
Re: Destin Inshore Fishing Guides
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:51 am
by tica-tica
Just got back from PCB, FL. I fished for 5 afternoons on the jetties at the St. Andrews State Park. Watched the tide and hit the jetties when the tide was moving out fast from bay to gulf. This is when a trash line sets up and craps/bait fish are getting swept out into the gulf. The big red fish were everywhere crashing the craps on top. Just chunk a badonkadonk or top dawg out to the trash line and they will smash it. Best color was black with orange belly but I caught some on other colors like a baby blue with white belly like a blue crap. I prolly caught 30 to 40 big red fish in the 5 afternoons I fished. All were way to big to keep but I didn't want them anyway.
$4 pass to state park beats the heck out of $300 for a half day bay guide.