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Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:18 pm
by quack_a_tack
Signed it

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:46 am
by fireplug
I heard that our fine Senator Mr. Thad Cochran was supporting this bill. Anyone else hear that? I think the report I heard said there were 20 republican
senators that support the UN gun ban treaty. I think it's time for these guys to go. I sure hope that a true patriot runs against Mr. Cochran.

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:09 am
by DanP
Cochran and Wicker are supporting a Bill AGAINST the treaty... Could that have been what the report was referring to?

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:54 am
by fireplug
No. Heard on the radio that Thad Cochran was in support OF the UN treaty. He was not one of the 50 something senators that were opposed to it. Gallo
show was interviewing Wicker last week and said he didn't understand why Thad was supporting it. Also go an email that I'll paste below. I don't pass along chain emails because 99% of the time they are bogus, but it reminded me of the radio interview I heard last week. Thad Cochran needed to go a long time ago
but for some reason money always trumps. That is why no one will run against him. It's like when these guys get into office they have to die or retire before we can get a good person to take thier place.


Here is the email letter I got showing the 20 senators that were in favor of the UN treaty.

Notice on the list. Our Senator's name !!!!! Talk about exasperation potential!



if you look around you can see the DOTS TO BE CONNECTED and they are getting closer together each day.

The shooting in Denver - the NoLIMIT******, Trayvon Martin - the shootings in Chicago - all guns events intended to push people into thinking they should ban guns.... Fast & Furious -
Connect with the UN gun grabber rule (it is NOT AN AMERICAN LAW!!!!) and those in Congress who call themselves Republicans - if you return these stinking traitors to office you deserve the consequences for that deed. I shall stand against them and you!

From a WGEN reader:

The trash that we send to WDC have no honor,
laugh at the vow they take to defend the constitution,
and they think we are too stupid to know what traitors they are.

Those who vote for the gun ban and erase our 2nd amendment rights should be thrown out of office with extreme prejudice.


Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 12:30 AM




Did you know there were 20 REPUBLICANS voting in favor of the UN GUN BAN TREATY? Yup... and here are their names... please, feel free to contact these quislings and let them know how you feel about their betrayal. -J.

Alexander, Lamar - (R – TN)Class II
455 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-4944
Email Him! www.alexander.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Email
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/senalexander

Ayotte, Kelly - (R – NH)Class III
144 RUSSELL SENATTE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-3324
Email Her! www.ayotte.senate.gov/?p=contact
Tweet Her! http://twitter.com/#!/kellyayotte

Brown, Scott P. – (R – MA)Class I
359 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILLDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-4543
Email Him! http://www.scottbrown.senate.gov/public ... scottbrown
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/ussenscottbrown

Cochran, Thad - (R – MS)Class II
113 DDIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-5054
Email Him! www.cochran.senate.gov/email.html
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/SenThadCochran

Collins, Susan M. - (R – ME)Class II
413 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-2523
Email Her! http://www.collins.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/email
Tweet Her! http://twitter.com/#!/senatorcollins

Corker, Bob - (R – TN)Class I
185 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-3344
Email Him! www.corker.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=ContactMe
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/senbobcorker

Enzi, Michael B. - (R – WY)Class II
379A RUSSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-3424
Email Him! http://www.enzi.senate.gov/public/index ... nator-enzi
Not on Twitter

Graham, Lindsey - (R – SC)Class II
290 RUSSELL SENATE OOFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-5972
Email Him! http://lgraham.senate.gov/public/index. ... atorGraham
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/grahamblog

Grassley, Chuck - (R – IA)CClass III
135 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-3744
Email Him! www.grassley.senate.gov/contact.cfm
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/CHUCKGRASSLEY

Hutchison, Kay Bailey - (R – TX)Class I
284 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-5922
Email Her! www.hutchison.senate.gov/?p=email_kay
Tweet Her! http://twitter.com/#!/kaybaileyhutch

Isakson, Johnny - (R – GA)Class III
131 RUSSELL SENNATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-3643
Email Him! www.isakson.senate.gov/contact.cfm
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/senatorisakson

Johanns, Mike - (R – NE)Class II
404 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICCE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-4224
Email Him! www.johanns.senate.gov/public/?p=ContactSenatorJohanns
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/mike_johanns

Kirk, Mark - (R – IL)Class III
524 HART SEENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-2854
Email Him! www.kirk.senate.gov/?p=contact
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/SENATORKIRK

Lugar, Richard G. - (R – IN)Class I
306 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-4814
Email Him! www.lugar.senate.gov/contact/
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/dicklugar
Tweet his Staff! http://twitter.com/#!/senatorlugar

McCain, John - (R - AZ)Class III
241 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-2235
Email Him! http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/ind ... on=Contact
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/senjohnmccain
Remember this SOB wanted to be president

McConnell, Mitch - (R – KY)Class II
317 RUSSELL SEENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-2541
Email Him! www.mcconnell.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=contact
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/mcconnellpress

Murkowski, Lisa - (R – AK)Cllass III
709 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-6665
Email Her! www.murkowski.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Contact
Tweet Her! http://twitter.com/#!/lisamurkowski

Portman, Rob - (R – OH)Class III
338 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-3353
Email Him! http://www.portman.senate.gov/public/in ... ?p=contact
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/robportman

Snowe, Olympia J. - (R – ME)Class I
154 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-5344
Email Her! www.snowe.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/contact?p=email
Tweet Her! http://twitter.com/#!/senatorsnowe

Toomey, Patrick J. - (R – PA)Claass III
502 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-4254
Email Him! www.toomey.senate.gov/?p=contact
Tweet Him! http://twitter.com/#!/sentoomey

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:18 am
by tombstone
If Thad supports it, my wife and I will vote for a drunk, non swimming, food stamp getting, democrat before we vote for him again.

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:21 am
by free78
I was listening to radio on way to work and can't remember the guys name but he said if signed it would rip second amendment apart without any challenge. Something about international laws. Not sure just caught tale end of interview. Anybody know anything about being able to trump our own amendment.

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:50 pm
by 420 racin
Don't see how any International Law coudl trump our own laws, but no matter. If there is a "law" that says you have to turn in your guns of they will come confiscate them and take you to jail, will you be turning in your guns?.......I didn't think so, they will have to come "confiscate" them and at soem point the ones that are being referred to as "they" (Police) will have had enough because their own liberties are being trashed and stepped on as well, so there will not be as many of "them" willing to take you to jail for not giving up your guns. That is the start of the Revolution that will soon be descending upon this country. This may make it happen sooner then we think, but nonetheless, it is and will be happening.

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:18 pm
by southdeltan
I think that whoever sent that email may have 2 UN treaties mixed up. There is a treaty called Lost (law of the seas treaty) that had the potential support of 20 republican senators but I read it's dead for the year. I keep seeing that there is very little support for the Small Arms Treaty.

Then again, maybe not. According to the national media - we wouldn't consider signing the Small Arms treaty unless it was unanimous. Very interesting that Iran is one of the committee countries on this.

Either way, the UN is useless.

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:34 pm
by SNOT
southdeltan wrote:I think that whoever sent that email may have 2 UN treaties mixed up. There is a treaty called Lost (law of the seas treaty) that had the potential support of 20 republican senators but I read it's dead for the year. I keep seeing that there is very little support for the Small Arms Treaty.

Then again, maybe not. According to the national media - we wouldn't consider signing the Small Arms treaty unless it was unanimous. Very interesting that Iran is one of the committee countries on this.

Either way, the UN is useless.
Maybe you're right....I know Trent Lott is now a lobbyist in some capacity for the Law of the Sea Treaty - and of course, when he was a senator he was against it. I guess getting paid as a lobbyist has a way of changing your beliefs.....we need some congressman that stick to what they think is right and what they're constituants believed they would fight for.....and we need term limits!

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:36 pm
by davidees
420 racin wrote:Don't see how any International Law coudl trump our own laws, but no matter. If there is a "law" that says you have to turn in your guns of they will come confiscate them and take you to jail, will you be turning in your guns?.......I didn't think so, they will have to come "confiscate" them and at soem point the ones that are being referred to as "they" (Police) will have had enough because their own liberties are being trashed and stepped on as well, so there will not be as many of "them" willing to take you to jail for not giving up your guns. That is the start of the Revolution that will soon be descending upon this country. This may make it happen sooner then we think, but nonetheless, it is and will be happening.
As a National Guardsman, I promise to refuse any order that violates the Constitution. My oath was to the Constitution, not the Government. There are many other officers and soldiers who are with me on this.

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:42 pm
by 420 racin
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As a National Guardsman, I promise to refuse any order that violates the Constitution. My oath was to the Constitution, not the Government. There are many other officers and soldiers who are with me on this.[/quote]


Exactly! WHEN it happens and the Gov. tries to take your guns, it will instantly turn into a situation where you as a person have to choose what side of this issue you are on, law be damned!! There will be far more that will not give up their guns than will, and if people without guns are trying to take our guns...well that don't make good sense to try!!

Glad to hear you will be on our side!

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:45 pm
by davidees
I swore to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. I also swore to obey the orders of the President, but if HE is the DOMESTIC enemy, my loyalty is with the Constitution as it should be.

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:09 pm
by tombstone
davidees wrote:
420 racin wrote:Don't see how any International Law coudl trump our own laws, but no matter. If there is a "law" that says you have to turn in your guns of they will come confiscate them and take you to jail, will you be turning in your guns?.......I didn't think so, they will have to come "confiscate" them and at soem point the ones that are being referred to as "they" (Police) will have had enough because their own liberties are being trashed and stepped on as well, so there will not be as many of "them" willing to take you to jail for not giving up your guns. That is the start of the Revolution that will soon be descending upon this country. This may make it happen sooner then we think, but nonetheless, it is and will be happening.
As a National Guardsman, I promise to refuse any order that violates the Constitution. My oath was to the Constitution, not the Government. There are many other officers and soldiers who are with me on this.
David, thank you for your service. Knowing that many service men feel that way is a glimmer of hope.

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:23 am
by fireplug
davidees wrote:As a National Guardsman, I promise to refuse any order that violates the Constitution. My oath was to the Constitution, not the Government. There are many other officers and soldiers who are with me on this.

I know there are a lot of US soldiers that would agree with you on this one, as well as a lot that are on the opposite side. I'm only 35 years old so I hope I have a few more years left to live on this earth before I go home to glory. My fear is, based on the current trend of our government and society, that before
I'm in my 50's-60's the country will have moved from the right of center nation to a left of center nation if not far left majorities. Our freedoms will be erroded
so bad that none of my generation will even recognize where we live anymore. At what point do the people serving in the armed forces say enough is enough?
At what point does the next "Civil War" start in this country? I think at the point we are today, it's almost going to take a civil war/revolution to take back our
country from the liberals that are trying to destroy it. Depressing to think about but it's just the fact of where we are.

Re: Stop the Arms Trade Treaty

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:45 am
by LawDawg
davidees wrote:I swore to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. I also swore to obey the orders of the President, but if HE is the DOMESTIC enemy, my loyalty is with the Constitution as it should be.

I'll drink to that! good stuff, man.