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Re: Whendo they Draw for Hunts

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:15 pm
by JaMak84
Denduke wrote:Mr. X,

Thank you for your comments.

The draw hunt system is designed to improve individual hunt quality and hunter satisfaction on our WMAs. We also recognize that there are problems inherent with any draw system. We feel that this system will help us insure that hunters who are drawn will show up for their hunts and will have a quality experience. By breaking the season up into segments we will help increase individual hunters chances of being drawn

With regards to the emplimentation of draw hunts without public notice: While the authority of public notices versus statutory rulings is sometimes confusing, rest assure that there have been multiple state Attorney General's rulings supporting the Commission's authority to set special season frameworks and hunt conditions on Wildlife Management Areas. Thus, our current draw system is indeed legal.

Consider this, among our many charges, one of the goals of the MDWFP is to recruit and retain new hunters. How can we recruit new hunters when the same hunters lay claim to all of the public hunting areas year after year? You must concede that a total free-for-all, especially in waterfowl hunting areas, is not always the best situation for all hunters. In those cases older, more experienced hunters and those who are more aggressive will seize the "best" areas, while less experienced hunters will be disappointed, discouraged, and ultimately cease to hunt. How can we be expected to recruit and retain waterfowl hunters in that situation?

In a perfect world those older, more aggressive hunters might be selfless enough to allow new hunters to hunt with them...but that doesn't happen often. Thus we have a draw system.

You mentioned MO, while I am not familiar with their policies, I have hunted for several years in TN and other eastern states. In those areas individual duck blinds were drawn for once at the beginning of the year and retained for an entire season. In those cases, successfully drawn blinds are commonly sold by the winner to highest bidder and the same older, more aggressive hunters end up hunting the same places year after year. Obviously, any system has it's draw backs.

I would encourage you to put in for a draw hunt, on the same level-playing-field as the rest of the waterfowl hunters who seek to utilize our great public hunting opportunities in this state, including myself and the rest of the Wildlife Bureau staff. I wish you the best of luck.
Could've saved a lot of typing by just saying, KISS OUR BUTT! :roll:

Re: Whendo they Draw for Hunts

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:00 pm
by peewee
JaMak84 wrote:
Denduke wrote:Mr. X,

Thank you for your comments.

The draw hunt system is designed to improve individual hunt quality and hunter satisfaction on our WMAs. We also recognize that there are problems inherent with any draw system. We feel that this system will help us insure that hunters who are drawn will show up for their hunts and will have a quality experience. By breaking the season up into segments we will help increase individual hunters chances of being drawn

With regards to the emplimentation of draw hunts without public notice: While the authority of public notices versus statutory rulings is sometimes confusing, rest assure that there have been multiple state Attorney General's rulings supporting the Commission's authority to set special season frameworks and hunt conditions on Wildlife Management Areas. Thus, our current draw system is indeed legal.

Consider this, among our many charges, one of the goals of the MDWFP is to recruit and retain new hunters. How can we recruit new hunters when the same hunters lay claim to all of the public hunting areas year after year? You must concede that a total free-for-all, especially in waterfowl hunting areas, is not always the best situation for all hunters. In those cases older, more experienced hunters and those who are more aggressive will seize the "best" areas, while less experienced hunters will be disappointed, discouraged, and ultimately cease to hunt. How can we be expected to recruit and retain waterfowl hunters in that situation?

In a perfect world those older, more aggressive hunters might be selfless enough to allow new hunters to hunt with them...but that doesn't happen often. Thus we have a draw system.

You mentioned MO, while I am not familiar with their policies, I have hunted for several years in TN and other eastern states. In those areas individual duck blinds were drawn for once at the beginning of the year and retained for an entire season. In those cases, successfully drawn blinds are commonly sold by the winner to highest bidder and the same older, more aggressive hunters end up hunting the same places year after year. Obviously, any system has it's draw backs.

I would encourage you to put in for a draw hunt, on the same level-playing-field as the rest of the waterfowl hunters who seek to utilize our great public hunting opportunities in this state, including myself and the rest of the Wildlife Bureau staff. I wish you the best of luck.
Could've saved a lot of typing by just saying, KISS OUR BUTT! :roll:
Or just said we want your money, we don't care if you hunt or not.

Re: Whendo they Draw for Hunts

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:00 pm
by peewee
JaMak84 wrote:
Denduke wrote:Mr. X,

Thank you for your comments.

The draw hunt system is designed to improve individual hunt quality and hunter satisfaction on our WMAs. We also recognize that there are problems inherent with any draw system. We feel that this system will help us insure that hunters who are drawn will show up for their hunts and will have a quality experience. By breaking the season up into segments we will help increase individual hunters chances of being drawn

With regards to the emplimentation of draw hunts without public notice: While the authority of public notices versus statutory rulings is sometimes confusing, rest assure that there have been multiple state Attorney General's rulings supporting the Commission's authority to set special season frameworks and hunt conditions on Wildlife Management Areas. Thus, our current draw system is indeed legal.

Consider this, among our many charges, one of the goals of the MDWFP is to recruit and retain new hunters. How can we recruit new hunters when the same hunters lay claim to all of the public hunting areas year after year? You must concede that a total free-for-all, especially in waterfowl hunting areas, is not always the best situation for all hunters. In those cases older, more experienced hunters and those who are more aggressive will seize the "best" areas, while less experienced hunters will be disappointed, discouraged, and ultimately cease to hunt. How can we be expected to recruit and retain waterfowl hunters in that situation?

In a perfect world those older, more aggressive hunters might be selfless enough to allow new hunters to hunt with them...but that doesn't happen often. Thus we have a draw system.

You mentioned MO, while I am not familiar with their policies, I have hunted for several years in TN and other eastern states. In those areas individual duck blinds were drawn for once at the beginning of the year and retained for an entire season. In those cases, successfully drawn blinds are commonly sold by the winner to highest bidder and the same older, more aggressive hunters end up hunting the same places year after year. Obviously, any system has it's draw backs.

I would encourage you to put in for a draw hunt, on the same level-playing-field as the rest of the waterfowl hunters who seek to utilize our great public hunting opportunities in this state, including myself and the rest of the Wildlife Bureau staff. I wish you the best of luck.
Could've saved a lot of typing by just saying, KISS OUR BUTT! :roll:
Or just said we want your money, we don't care if you hunt or not.

Re: Whendo they Draw for Hunts

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:31 am
by Anatidae
'Hunters' are responsible for their own sport - relying on hard-won skills and experience.

'Shooters' are those wanting to be taken (or seen going) to what has become widely regarded as 'hunting'.

My only thoughts about recruitment - a greater appreciation for anything comes through respect and hard work.......not a sense of entitlement. Most things we are 'given', we tend to take for granted.

Happy Hunting!

Re: Whendo they Draw for Hunts

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:35 pm
by Denduke
When you apply they want your customer number and your birthdate. Maybe I would get luckier if I changed '49 to '89? Got drawn twice now in 7 years....system is working :?:
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