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randywallace wrote:FedEx or UPS, either way those trucks don't always get where they are supposed to. Insure the package for what it is worth or risk losing some $$$.
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Yeap , Ship happens

And theu want you to believe that's your responsibility.

They will take responsibility up to the value that you declared the package for. Get over it and pay the extra or YOU take on the risk of having to pay. There is no such thing as a free meal.

I quit shipping using UPS or FedEx a while back. Their rates are just stupid. I use USPS on my shipping and it is a lot less. Example. I was shipping an item that I sold on ebay to Canada a few years ago. UPS and FedEx both wanted over $125 for shipping with all the insurance. USPS did the shipping same time frame and insurance for under $30.00.

ducknbuck1 wrote:I quit shipping using UPS or FedEx a while back. Their rates are just stupid. I use USPS on my shipping and it is a lot less. Example. I was shipping an item that I sold on ebay to Canada a few years ago. UPS and FedEx both wanted over $125 for shipping with all the insurance. USPS did the shipping same time frame and insurance for under $30.00.

Alot of people have started doing this. I think the prices are crazy myself on things with the two companies. But its the fastest way.
Remember now, even though you move it USPS it still moves by UPS of fedex depending on the lane. It gets the bottom of priority to move depending on volumes. Alot of people dont know that or understand. Easy way to explain it, does USPS have airplanes? Nope, they pay for certain space available on them to move packages through air companies. Mail goes through their sort facility then gets put in bins and turned over to the air carriers. Then its delivered to destinations sort facities to be put out on the mail trucks.
so either way its still being handled by UPS or Fedex.

kb7722 wrote:They will take responsibility up to the value that you declared the package for. Get over it and pay the extra or YOU take on the risk of having to pay. There is no such thing as a free meal.

Ok, but am I allowed to do that will my line of work as an attorney? You come to me and pay me for something that you expect to receive for your payment. Well guess what? I got sick and had a bad morning on the day of your hearing and you didn't pay me more to insure that I wouldn't be sick or having a bad day. So instead of giving you the service you thought you paid for you are only going to get what I feel like I owe, which is $100 worth.

Is that not what UPS and FedEx are basically saying? That is not how I practice law, but tried to put in perspective. Nevertheless, I received my new rifle.

FN SCAR 17s, Trijicon AccuPoint 5-20x50mm (Mil-Dot), 6 - 20Rd mags and case.

woody wrote:

kb7722 wrote:They will take responsibility up to the value that you declared the package for. Get over it and pay the extra or YOU take on the risk of having to pay. There is no such thing as a free meal.

Ok, but am I allowed to do that will my line of work as an attorney? You come to me and pay me for something that you expect to receive for your payment. Well guess what? I got sick and had a bad morning on the day of your hearing and you didn't pay me more to insure that I wouldn't be sick or having a bad day. So instead of giving you the service you thought you paid for you are only going to get what I feel like I owe, which is $100 worth.

Is that not what UPS and FedEx are basically saying? That is not how I practice law, but tried to put in perspective. Nevertheless, I received my new rifle.

FN SCAR 17s, Trijicon AccuPoint 5-20x50mm (Mil-Dot), 6 - 20Rd mags and case.

That's not how insurance works. You're an attorney?

Smoke68 wrote:

woody wrote:

kb7722 wrote:They will take responsibility up to the value that you declared the package for. Get over it and pay the extra or YOU take on the risk of having to pay. There is no such thing as a free meal.

Ok, but am I allowed to do that will my line of work as an attorney? You come to me and pay me for something that you expect to receive for your payment. Well guess what? I got sick and had a bad morning on the day of your hearing and you didn't pay me more to insure that I wouldn't be sick or having a bad day. So instead of giving you the service you thought you paid for you are only going to get what I feel like I owe, which is $100 worth.

Is that not what UPS and FedEx are basically saying? That is not how I practice law, but tried to put in perspective. Nevertheless, I received my new rifle.

FN SCAR 17s, Trijicon AccuPoint 5-20x50mm (Mil-Dot), 6 - 20Rd mags and case.

That's not how insurance works. You're an attorney?

Exactly. I comes down to risk and liability.

woody wrote:

kb7722 wrote:They will take responsibility up to the value that you declared the package for. Get over it and pay the extra or YOU take on the risk of having to pay. There is no such thing as a free meal.

Ok, but am I allowed to do that will my line of work as an attorney?
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Is that not what UPS and FedEx are basically saying? That is not how I practice law,.........

I think yall are missing my point. University of Phoenix grad

I shipped 3 identical package to 3 cities. Jena La, Jonesboro Ar, and Inverness Ms via UPS all were to a residence. . Which was cheapest and most expensive. It was a box of business cards.





Jena was $7 Jonesboro $15 and Inverness $16. Makes no sense why closest was most $$ and furthest the cheapest.


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dukmisr2005 wrote:I shipped 3 identical package to 3 cities. Jena La, Jonesboro Ar, and Inverness Ms via UPS all were to a residence. . Which was cheapest and most expensive. It was a box of business cards


Jena was $7 Jonesboro $15 and Inverness $16. Makes no sense why closest was most $$ and furthest the cheapest.


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All different becuase of cost of fuel on shipments. We have B1, B2, and B3 points. B3 is the farthest point away from a sort facility. USPS does not charge additional costs bc usually each medium size city has a office. UPS and fedex dont have this ability to have these.
Usually when you compare the 2, thats what makes the price difference on shipments. UPS might charge 35.00 and fedex charges 22.00. Means fedex has a closer operation then UPS does which sometimes happens.
like memphis to bartlett tn is usually a B2 point depending on zip. But something a mile away is B1 point. Memphis to corinth ms is B3.
Just a thought on it all when you compare prices on shipping.

Smoke68 wrote:That's not how insurance works. You're an attorney?

Last time I checked UPS and FedEx were shipping companies, not insurance companies. 2 guns of equal weight and size should cost the same to ship to the same point regardless of value. The cost of actually moving a package from point A to point B doesn't change because gun A is worth more than gun B, the cost of insuring gun A does though. And determining that cost should be between the shipping company and their insurance provider. There should be a breaking point on their insurance coverage where items of a certain value are going to be over insured and other items are going to be under insured. Their business model should account for those items that are under insured and be able to absorb the cost of replacing those items if necessary. Guess I'm just tired of businesses cutting corners and asking their customers to do their job for them. Like the damn "self-checkout" lines.

JaMak84 wrote:

Smoke68 wrote:That's not how insurance works. You're an attorney?

Guess I'm just tired of businesses cutting corners and asking their customers to do their job for them. Like the damn "self-checkout" lines.

I've got to argue with the whole self-checkout lane statement. I would much rather scan all my own groceries than deal with the rude, lazy cheeseburger at Walmart that doesn't want to be there throwing my groceries in the bag and bruising my damn bananas while she smacks her gums. That's just me though.

To be honest, from an insurance perspective, your package is their responsibility when you are paying them a fee for them to transport it.