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turfdog wrote:Sorry for the rant, but it appears we have a few topwaters here as far as chemical knowledge goes.

Topwaters .... BWAAAA

turfdog wrote:Thanks, dedux for correcting mudhog who stated that 2,4-D would sterlize the ground, and the last time I checked it was not a restricted use chemical. This means you don't have to have a lic. to purchase it. How ever with some of the knowledge I see flying around here it might be wise if someone was required to have some sort of learning about pesticides and there use!
2,4-D is one of the components in Trimec along with 2-(2-methyl-4- chlorophnooxy) and Dicamba. Also you can find Trimec plus which has MSMA added ( don't try to mix these two your self as you will get a strange jello like substance.) These products offer a better and broader spectrum of weed control than 2,4-D alone.
Sorry for the rant, but it appears we have a few topwaters here as far as chemical knowledge goes.

Okay, first off thanks for the info. I didn't claim to be a horticulturalist (that might be a big word for you), nor a chemical engineer.

Secondly, this is a public website. This is not a place where chemical engineers talk. So there is various amount of knowledge around here. Don't flame a person just for making comments. With comments like that any new user would NOT post his own comment in fear that it may be incorrect.

Like one of my diesel sites I visist, guy came asking about engineering beam size for a carport that would have living space under it. In no way should anyone trust information over the internet like that and immediately start fabrication or construction.


Most importantly of all, it's just INFORMATION and it's also just the WORLD WIDE WEB.


Sorry to have pissed in your frosted flakes with my comment.




On Edit: After recollecting my thoughts, DDT is the chemical I was first talking about. Again, sorry for confusing things when in fact I never once claimed to be an expert.

Just don't spray it around cotton.

this is what we use. its the same as it contains 2-4-d and also Dimethylamine Salt






Perfect for use on lawns, ornamental turf, drainage ditchbanks, fence rows, and rights-of-way. Weedestroy provides effective broad spectrum weed control, is safe for desirable grasses, and is tank mix compatible. The water-based amine formulation utilizes colorless, high performance surface agents and contains highly-effective sequestering agents which allow for more solubility in hard water. Active ingredient is 47.3% Dimethylamine Salt of 2, 4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic Acid.

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Bullseye
Yes you are correct that DDT is a band product (it is however a insecticide and will not do much for weeds in your yard.)
As for being a Horticultualist no I am not either, but as a trained Agronomist I would like to think I could help with useful info. that I know about. Sorry I can't help with the structural beam carport issuse.
Hey what other big words yeaux all got down in the swamp?

don miller..

turf dog is a msu man.. we (msu) have forgot more about weeds and grass than most places ever knew.. i would think that t-dog might know what he's talkin bout...

on another note.. why is the marjuana growin station in oxfart and not in starkville... seems to me that if you wanted to grow some grass you'd let msu grow it not um....

Bigwater,
It must be all that legal lawerin stuff, them ole pissers are good at that?
You know how to keep the NCAA at bay probably is like keepin the DEA and other agencies at arms length

Turfdawg, that Trimec Plus good for getting rid of crabgrass when the your turfgrass is already growing? Be nice to be able to spray for broadleafs and crabgrass. Does it hurt any specific turfgrasses? Mainly concerned with Zoysia, centipede, fescue, bermuda.

olt
It will be fine on the Zoysia, & Bermuda at lable rates( 1.2 to 1.5 oz /1000 sqft)and on the fescue at lower rates and before the heat kicks in. I would NOT spray it on Centipede nor St. Augustine. Be sure to not allow drift on to any woody ornamental shrub, ie azelea, boxwood, holly, etc. You can use atrazine on your centipede with the same precautions for your landscape plants.

tdog, I love my home remedy mix of roundup, 2,4,D, and atrazine , applied early to my lawn. But, the atrazine is notorious for stopping up my nozzles. Got any suggestions???

Thanks.

Talk to an ag pilot around Money. They should be putting it out like crazy right now. They usually don't get it all out of the 30 gallon drums and they might have a little extra they could hook ya up with.

2,4,5-T

Isn't that Agent Orange?

But, the atrazine is notorious for stopping up my nozzles. Got any suggestions???

You ought to see what it will do to a 800 gallon tank and 75 T-jets when left sitting for too long. Been there and done that....I hate Atrazine. You've got to keep it under constant, rapid agitation or it will settle out. I think there is a mixing agent on the market that helps keep it in suspension, but I can't remember what it was.

My next least favorite is Command; 3rd least fav is tank mix of Prowl and Insol.

with my experience with chemicals on Golf Courses if you let them sit in the spray rig to long they will form a gunk and it will be a mess your best bet is to spray your yard and the back off into the woods or somewhere that it want hurt and run all the chemicals out of the tank.

Just checked my receipts from last spring and I paid 32.50 for a 2.5 gallong jug of 2,4-D at the seed dealer.

Check with any co-op or seed dealer. This is the time of year that 2.4-D is going out on the fields.