Forrest Moore / Cohen Suit

[stitch]

Guilty of what?[/quote]

Guilty of the aqusations made by Forrest, to a degree, some of which violate NCAA rules. I'm not trying to say he is guilty in a court of law, I'm not even saying he has committed "major" violations, in fact I'll take back the comment that "he is gone" because I don't know what MSU would/will do to him. but he handle some situations poorly when setting his feet into his newjob, and the disgruntled are, well they are disgruntled! I'd say I might fill the same if it were my son, I don't know cause I think he's a piece of work but I understand his plight as a coach, harsh as it may have been.[/quote]

You didn't answer my question......what is he being accused of? If it's the "practicing too long"......good luck with that. You have 3-4 guys that couldn't cut it and are disgruntled. You have more people saying Forest and his buddies statements aren't accurate. That being said.......it would be next to impossible for Forest to prove the number of hours he practiced. It's a he said she said situation and i am certain that MSU's records are in line with NCAA regulations.

To get back to Forest saying the long practices are what hurt his arm......good luck with that as well. I will bet my house there was never a situation where Cohen forced Forest to get on the mound.....but assuming he did, where is Forest's personal responsibility to say no?

[camlock]

Guilty of what?

Guilty of the aqusations made by Forrest, to a degree, some of which violate NCAA rules. I'm not trying to say he is guilty in a court of law, I'm not even saying he has committed "major" violations, in fact I'll take back the comment that "he is gone" because I don't know what MSU would/will do to him. but he handle some situations poorly when setting his feet into his newjob, and the disgruntled are, well they are disgruntled! I'd say I might fill the same if it were my son, I don't know cause I think he's a piece of work but I understand his plight as a coach, harsh as it may have been.[/quote]

You didn't answer my question......what is he being accused of? If it's the "practicing too long"......good luck with that. You have 3-4 guys that couldn't cut it and are disgruntled. You have more people saying Forest and his buddies statements aren't accurate. That being said.......it would be next to impossible for Forest to prove the number of hours he practiced. It's a he said she said situation and i am certain that MSU's records are in line with NCAA regulations.

To get back to Forest saying the long practices are what hurt his arm......good luck with that as well. I will bet my house there was never a situation where Cohen forced Forest to get on the mound.....but assuming he did, where is Forest's personal responsibility to say no?[/quote]

You know what...F it...erased my post...I don't care if you wanna hear me, I shouldn't say anything anyways...I don't give a dam what happens, but I'll leave this conversation with this...don't be so naive to think that just because a bunch of people "think" there is no way, or because Cohen's recruits on roster are willing to say he did or didn't that the former player didn't have a case...read between those lines and you'll have your answer...

[bigoak]

Cohen has handled a lot of things poorly. A lot of State supporters don't like him. If he broke any NCAA rules then he will have to suffer the consequences. No one has a problem with that. The million dollar question is, what did Cohen do to Forrest Moore that would make Cohen, and MSU, liable for any financial damages? Would Moore be playing in the majors today if not for Cohen working him too hard? I have no idea. Anyone care to offer an opinion?

[camlock]

Cohen has handled a lot of things poorly. A lot of State supporters don't like him. If he broke any NCAA rules then he will have to suffer the consequences. No one has a problem with that. The million dollar question is, what did Cohen do to Forrest Moore that would make Cohen, and MSU, liable for any financial damages? Would Moore be playing in the majors today if not for Cohen working him too hard? I have no idea. Anyone care to offer an opinion?

He was released by the Marlins organization in June...he may not have made the pro's, he may have been cut already anyways...who knows but his career has been seriously damaged by medical issues...what caused them? They say Cohen...

The issue also here is that just because they can't or don't prove Cohen violated a NCAA rule doesn't mean that can't shine a real negative light on things...and that's the point you need to look at. You think those unhappy supporters are gonna be ok with ethics issues in the program? Will it be ok to have a coach using poor ethics, as long as he doesn't get you in financial trouble or NCAA trouble? Lawsuits and investigations, won lost or settled almost always reveal more things than can be seen from the surface, unless Cohen is 100% clean and Moore & Co. are 100% liars, MSU doesn't want this to go very far...that's my take

[chopper30]

I thought you were done talking about this?

[camlock]

I thought you were done talking about this?

I was, then I decided I wasn't...cool with you?

[chopper30]

I shouldn't say anything anyways...I don't give a dam what happens

I think this is the route you should take, you're looking a little obsessed.

[camlock]

I shouldn't say anything anyways...I don't give a dam what happens

I think this is the route you should take, you're looking a little obsessed.

not sure I care how I look to you...if taking part in a conversation on a message board (which is a conversation of itself) makes you obsessed, call me guilty it's why I come to this website...I think doing nothing but trolling around this site until you find a witty time to insert a one liner looks at little douchey.

but for the record, I'm not obsessed with Forrest Moore vs. Miss State or John Cohen, promise I won't consider this conversation or it's topic at all as soon as I get something better to do around about 5 pm, I just know some things about this situation so I'm interested to talk about it, I am trying hard not to work too hard and enjoy going about it on the message boards...once again is that ok with you?

[chopper30]

Fine with me, I'm interested in the topic as well that's why I'm reading it or "trolling" as you say. I personally think it's funny when people get their panties in a wad, throw some F bombs and said they are done with the topic just to reply to the next person that posts. I see that doesn't humor you though.

As far as the topic, I don't doubt if them boys practiced a little too much. I don't doubt Cohen handled some things the wrong way. I do doubt that they came anywhere close the the hours Moore claimed. I do think Moore got his feelings hurt. I do not think anything will happen to Cohen from these allegations. I do think Cohen is twice the coach Bianco is. I do know the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I do not think MSU will win 9 games this year. What do you think?

[deltadukman]

Fine with me, I'm interested in the topic as well that's why I'm reading it or "trolling" as you say. I personally think it's funny when people get their panties in a wad, throw some F bombs and said they are done with the topic just to reply to the next person that posts. I see that doesn't humor you though.

As far as the topic, I don't doubt if them boys practiced a little too much. I don't doubt Cohen handled some things the wrong way. I do doubt that they came anywhere close the the hours Moore claimed. I do think Moore got his feelings hurt. I do not think anything will happen to Cohen from these allegations. I do think Cohen is twice the coach Bianco is. I do know the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I do not think MSU will win 9 games this year. What do you think?

I do think thats great stuff.....and I do think we've been missing out on some taco tuesday.

[bigoak]

Even MSU folks would have to admit that Cohen is a hot headed jerk. Not saying he is a bad coach. The thing that bothers me about the suit is that Moore could have walked away at any time if he thought he was being over worked. Wonder if Moore would be suing if he was in the majors right now?

[camlock]

As far as the topic, I don't doubt if them boys practiced a little too much. I don't doubt Cohen handled some things the wrong way. I do doubt that they came anywhere close the the hours Moore claimed. I do think Moore got his feelings hurt. I do not think anything will happen to Cohen from these allegations. I do think Cohen is twice the coach Bianco is. I do know the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I do not think MSU will win 9 games this year. What do you think?

I think what I know bout it is that Cohen is not innocent no ways about it, do I think he should lose his job...No, not really. But if it were my son, maybe I might think differently, and I think if presented in certain ways he could lose his job or look bad enough to affected his job...I can honestly see both sides of it, and the best thing for Cohen and for Miss State would be for it to go away, I can promise that and people can believe me or think I'm full of it...won't matter to me, just talking. Truth is somewhere in the middle, but what will matter is the attorneys and how they define the middle, not the actual middle. I don't think MSU will win 9 games this year either and I don't think Cohen is twice the coach Bianco is, I think Cohen could learn some things from Bianco that would compliment what he is good at and then he could be pretty formidable.

[camlock]

Even MSU folks would have to admit that Cohen is a hot headed jerk. Not saying he is a bad coach. The thing that bothers me about the suit is that Moore could have walked away at any time if he thought he was being over worked. Wonder if Moore would be suing if he was in the majors right now?

This suit was in the works LONG time before he got released...

[Greenhead22]

This is all about daddy didn't get his way with either coaching staff while Forrest was there.

[eSJay]

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talked to someone 2-3 weeks ago about this situation that I believe has as much knowledge as you need...and Cohen is guilty....PERIOD, and he deserves to lose his job.

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I think what I know bout it is that Cohen is not innocent no ways about it, do I think he should lose his job...No, not really.

what a difference a page makes.!
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