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drakechaser wrote:

Wingman wrote:That says a uniformed officer cannot wear his duty weapon in a voting place?

I was "de-gunned" this morning in Isola. First time this has happened.

There is none. I was in uniform voting back in the summer. We have been asked to leave our duty weapons in the car when we respond to the North MS Behavioral Health facility for calls for service because they have a "no gun" policy. They quickly learned that's not an option! I've had a few people to ask me to leave it in the car when I attend church while on duty. They too were told NO!

I wish we had an officer with a gun every service here at the church I serve. A church is one place some physco can get at people in a group and do whatever he wants.

drakechaser wrote:

ducman77 wrote:Sounds like to me the Chief is an idiot?

Some are Chiefs by title only!

To many Chiefs and not enough Indians.

drakechaser wrote:

ducman77 wrote:Sounds like to me the Chief is an idiot?

Some are Chiefs by title only!

Sounds to me like he is a Democrat

I was initially told the same thing this morning... then I politely told the young man that I was on duty and I work for the Department of Justice and had five polling managers around me before I finished my sentence! ...since when did polls become so anti-law enforcement!?

That's pure absurdity.

If I lived in that area they'd be hearing from me. Even if it doesn't matter and means nothing more than a sent email, the NRA is getting an email from me.

bolivarduck wrote:I was initially told the same thing this morning... then I politely told the young man that I was on duty and I work for the Department of Justice and had five polling managers around me before I finished my sentence! ...since when did polls become so anti-law enforcement!?

Should of told them you were a Black Panther. Probabaly would have gotten the waive-through.

Wingman wrote:That says a uniformed officer cannot wear his duty weapon in a voting place?

I was "de-gunned" this morning in Isola. First time this has happened.

The highway patrol dude from Olive Branch was packing this morning when we voted...

When I was involved in helping rewrite a church constitution once I found during our research that there are several churches in biggers cities that have a security detail made up of men in the church who have their concealed carry. They just walk around during all church activities and to everybody else they look like an usher or welcome person except they are packing.

Pretty good idea if you ask me. I can't tell you the fights that were had between ex-spouses who came to pick their kids up when my wife and I taught pre-school Sundary School. Many of the divorced parents would use our class as the switching point for the weekend visitation. One parent would drop off and another would pick up. We also had several times where a parent would get mad because we'd let them go with the other parent and then find out the visitation order had been changed or they had just started the divorce. I'd tell them it wasn't my problem to referee there divorce and to take it outside and away from my room. When we got called to testify in a divorce case is when we gave up teaching Sunday school. It just go to be to much of a headache. We never had to say anything as they settled but it was a complete waste of our time.

I guess the point I'm making by saying all that is you never know these days what situation is going to turn ugly when somebody decides they want to "act a fool" as my Grandmother used to say.

The better story would've been you declining their request, pinning a ballot on the wall, declaring your votes with bullet holes, calmly turning in the ballot, whispering to the poll worker Don't Tread on Me, and then slinging gravel outta the parking lot while blasting ACDC's "TNT".

MSDawg870 wrote:The better story would've been you declining their request, pinning a ballot on the wall, declaring your votes with bullet holes, calmly turning in the ballot, whispering to the poll worker Don't Tread on Me, and then slinging gravel outta the parking lot while blasting ACDC's "TNT".

that would definitely be a different kind of excitement in isola city! if mom were still writing the "isola happenings" column in the banner...you'd make it in (most likely make the front page, too, though)!

Seymore wrote:When I was involved in helping rewrite a church constitution once I found during our research that there are several churches in biggers cities that have a security detail made up of men in the church who have their concealed carry. They just walk around during all church activities and to everybody else they look like an usher or welcome person except they are packing.

Pretty good idea if you ask me. I can't tell you the fights that were had between ex-spouses who came to pick their kids up when my wife and I taught pre-school Sundary School. Many of the divorced parents would use our class as the switching point for the weekend visitation. One parent would drop off and another would pick up. We also had several times where a parent would get mad because we'd let them go with the other parent and then find out the visitation order had been changed or they had just started the divorce. I'd tell them it wasn't my problem to referee there divorce and to take it outside and away from my room. When we got called to testify in a divorce case is when we gave up teaching Sunday school. It just go to be to much of a headache. We never had to say anything as they settled but it was a complete waste of our time.

I guess the point I'm making by saying all that is you never know these days what situation is going to turn ugly when somebody decides they want to "act a fool" as my Grandmother used to say.

I carry concealed to church when I'm off duty. To many church shootings going on these days. Prime target for a Haji wanting to carry out Jihad. The same people that ask me not to wear my duty weapon while on duty at church would be the very same ones to ridicule me if something bad happened and I was unarmed.

Statistics show that churches with "greeters" and where people routinely greet strangers are less likely to be attacked.

Kevin, I might cut up in the 2012 election.

Let me guess the racial profile of the people who told you this in Isola?

After 911 there was a federal law enacted that all commissioned law enforcement officers could carry off duty anywhere at anytime

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1994 WL 410677 (Miss.A.G.)


Office of the Attorney General
State of Mississippi

Opinion No. 94-0424



July 28, 1994


RE: ARMED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS VOTING


Jeffrey Holliman, Esquire
Attorney for Forrest County Board of Supervisors
Post Office Box 1310
Hattiesburg, Mississippi 39403


Dear Mr. Holliman:


Attorney General Mike Moore has received your letter of request and has assigned it to me for research and reply. Your letter states:

“The Forrest County Election Commissioners and Sheriff request your official opinion concerning on-duty law enforcement officers entering the polling place to vote while in possession of their issued firearms. The Election Commissioners report that they have been told at seminars on election laws that no one may enter the polling place to vote while armed, including law enforcement officers. Some law enforcement officers in the past have been denied entry to the polling place unless they disarmed, and some have refused to disarm and forfeited their opportunity to vote.

Please advise (1) whether Mississippi law or Federal law expressly prohibit a law enforcement officer from entering a polling place to vote while in possession of his issued firearm, and (2) whether the Election Commission or poll workers may prohibit a law enforcement officer from entering the polling place while in possession of his issued firearm?

Mississippi Code Sections 23-15-895 and 97-13-29 concerned armed men at a polling place, but don't appear to specifically address the situation. Your opinion on this issue will be appreciated.”


Mississippi Code Annotated § 23-15-895 (Revised 1990) provides in part:

“. . . . It shall be unlawful for any candidate or a representative named by him in writing, to appear at any polling place while armed or uniformed, nor shall he display any badge or credentials except as may be issued by the manager of the polling place.”


Section 97-13-29 provides:

“It shall not be lawful for any military officer or other persons to order, bring, or keep any troops of armed men at any place within a mile of the place where any general or special election is held, unless it be for the purpose of quelling a riot or insurrection, in the manner provided by law, or for the purpose of defense in time of war; and whoever shall violate the provisions of this section shall, on conviction, be punished by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding one year, or by fine not less than five hundred dollars, or both; and if the offense shall be committed with intent to influence such election, the person convicted thereof shall be punished by imprisonment in the penitentiary for a term not exceeding two years.”


In response to your first question, it is the opinion of this office that neither the prohibitions of the above quoted statutes nor any other State statute make it illegal for a uniformed and/or armed law enforcement officer to enter his polling place for the purpose of casting his vote. A law enforcement officer who is a candidate or who has been appointed to act as a pollwatcher may not act as such while in uniform or armed.

In the past there have been complaints against the practice of uniformed and/or armed law enforcement officers voting on the basis that some voters perceive it as creating an intimidating atmosphere. There have been some suggestions that, to avoid such perceptions, the manager/bailiff may request that law enforcement officers secure their weapons in their vehicles or elsewhere before entering the polling place. However, as indicated above, we are not aware of any statutory requirement that they do so. Therefore, in response to your second question, it is our opinion that an armed or uniformed law enforcement officer may not be denied entry to a polling place for the sole purpose of casting his vote.
Sincerely,

Mike Moore
Attorney General

By: Phil Carter
Assistant Attorney General

1994 WL 410677 (Miss.A.G.)

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