Re: Is Cam Clean?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:58 pm
"Po Monk, it may mention in the aforementioned TD thread, not sure, but there is speculation that the reason State, the SEC and NCAA drug their feet is a correlation with FBI wiretaps that had incidentally picked up conversation above collecting money to pay Cam and other players. The FBI wanted to keep it on the down-low so as not to burn their cover and alert the people they were investigating. "
Delta, not sure that I am buying that explanation. The SEC contends that it requested more info from MSU after MSU's Jan report, and that MSU did not respond until July, despite the SEC office pushing for a response. And even in July, the SEC contends that there was no info provided by MSU regarding the now alleged taped conferences with the Newtons. However, the rumor posted by Bankermane, if true, could be the explanation. IF the persons who the Newtons were talking to when they admitted the pay for play scheme at Auburn were in fact Coach Mullen and his wife, then it would be understandable that Coach Mullen would not want his wife having to get involved in this sordid matter, if at all possible. So, that, along with the Mullens' past close relationship with Cam, would explain why they would hold back information from the SEC office. As I said, it appears that for some reason, MSU reported to the SEC only the minimum amount of information that it thought it could get away with and still cover its booty. And this may very well have been the reason.
While the FBI angle may be a part of this Newton story, I don't think such was known, nor was it affecting the reporting/investigation actions of the SEC or MSU until perhaps very recently, and indirectly at that. It was only very recently that MSU came forward with the allegations about the incriminating conferences with the Newtons that are allegedly on tape.
I think MSU is going to have a problem stemming from Kenny Rogers. And if what Bankermane has posted is true about the Mullens, then whether this situation in the delayed reporting of the evidence of improprieties by the Newtons turns into something bad for MSU will depend entirely upon what exactly was reported to the SEC office in January, and then later in July. MSU will try to say that it was just following the SEC protocol set forth by Slive and reported sufficient info for the SEC to take any action it determined was needed (there have already been public statements from MSU to this effect). The SEC is going to say that what MSU reported was inadequate for action on its part, and that MSU did not fully report what it knew about the Newton matter, even after the requests for more information and MSU's delayed response in July (there have already been public statements from the SEC office to this effect). And whether any of this after-the-fact finger pointing between the SEC office and MSU is going to matter to the NCAA as an excuse for each knowing something about all of this and neither taking timely action in reporting any of this to the NCAA, is a big question. There appears to be a whole lot of "splain'in" to be done.
Auburn, it appears, is up the proverbial creek without a paddle. Under any scenario playing out, it appears that Cecil had his hand out and Cam is thus ineligible per NCAA rules. Thus, the wins and any awards from this season will most likely have to be forfeited. If any evidence of pay for play emerges, through the NCAA investigation and/or FBI investigation, then Auburn is toast. A lot of smoke out there. It ain't looking good.
Delta, not sure that I am buying that explanation. The SEC contends that it requested more info from MSU after MSU's Jan report, and that MSU did not respond until July, despite the SEC office pushing for a response. And even in July, the SEC contends that there was no info provided by MSU regarding the now alleged taped conferences with the Newtons. However, the rumor posted by Bankermane, if true, could be the explanation. IF the persons who the Newtons were talking to when they admitted the pay for play scheme at Auburn were in fact Coach Mullen and his wife, then it would be understandable that Coach Mullen would not want his wife having to get involved in this sordid matter, if at all possible. So, that, along with the Mullens' past close relationship with Cam, would explain why they would hold back information from the SEC office. As I said, it appears that for some reason, MSU reported to the SEC only the minimum amount of information that it thought it could get away with and still cover its booty. And this may very well have been the reason.
While the FBI angle may be a part of this Newton story, I don't think such was known, nor was it affecting the reporting/investigation actions of the SEC or MSU until perhaps very recently, and indirectly at that. It was only very recently that MSU came forward with the allegations about the incriminating conferences with the Newtons that are allegedly on tape.
I think MSU is going to have a problem stemming from Kenny Rogers. And if what Bankermane has posted is true about the Mullens, then whether this situation in the delayed reporting of the evidence of improprieties by the Newtons turns into something bad for MSU will depend entirely upon what exactly was reported to the SEC office in January, and then later in July. MSU will try to say that it was just following the SEC protocol set forth by Slive and reported sufficient info for the SEC to take any action it determined was needed (there have already been public statements from MSU to this effect). The SEC is going to say that what MSU reported was inadequate for action on its part, and that MSU did not fully report what it knew about the Newton matter, even after the requests for more information and MSU's delayed response in July (there have already been public statements from the SEC office to this effect). And whether any of this after-the-fact finger pointing between the SEC office and MSU is going to matter to the NCAA as an excuse for each knowing something about all of this and neither taking timely action in reporting any of this to the NCAA, is a big question. There appears to be a whole lot of "splain'in" to be done.
Auburn, it appears, is up the proverbial creek without a paddle. Under any scenario playing out, it appears that Cecil had his hand out and Cam is thus ineligible per NCAA rules. Thus, the wins and any awards from this season will most likely have to be forfeited. If any evidence of pay for play emerges, through the NCAA investigation and/or FBI investigation, then Auburn is toast. A lot of smoke out there. It ain't looking good.
