Take Me Back Tuesday: GLOBAL WARMING CORRAL

[Po Monkey Lounger]

"There is an alternative and that is to place a carbon tax on all fossil fuels...Would you prefer a government mandated tax or a marketplace approach that allows for efficient, least cost approaches? "

There will be no "alternative" in this regard if the greens/liberal dems get their way. We will have both --- a very flawed, and near useless, carbon credit scam, er scheme, and carbon taxes.

Whether Al Gore is ultimately the Democrat nominee for President in 2008 or not, the other candidates and top dems are fawning all over him re this GW movement. The following legislative changes are being currently pushed by Gore:

1. immediate "carbon freeze" on all US CO2 emissions;

2. replace payroll taxes with new pollution/CO2 taxes;

3. give portion of CO2 taxes to poor;

4. create new Kyoto Treaty and ratify by 2010;

5. institute moratorium on coal-fired power-plant construction;

6. create an "electranet" grid to feed excess energy back into the electric power grid;

7. raise CAFE (fuel economy) standards on vehicles;

8. ban incandescent lightbulbs by date certain;

9. create CNMA ("Connie Mae"), a carbon neutral mortgage association to finance energy saving technologies;

10. order SEC to require corporations to disclose CO2 emissions as a "material risk".


I strongly disagree with items 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 10. These are unnecessary and too radical given the state of the science to-date.

I agree with raising the CAFE standards (modestly and gradually) to reduce our dependence upon and slowly ween ourselves off of foreign oil and improve our national security.

If better and more energy efficient light bulbs can help us save huge amounts of energy, then I have no problem with item 8 (so long as it is a gradual phase out).

Item 6 is a great idea, provided that it is cost effective.

Item 9 is a good idea, so long as proper regulations are in place to prevent investment in junk science. Helping folks purchase proven, more energy efficient technology could be a very good thing.

Clearly, one of Gore's key proposed legislative initiatives includes placing additional taxes on US citizens.

The carbon credit schemes are nothing more than a way for most of the GW proponents to exempt themselves from any lifestyle changes. I've already outline several problems with the system, and why it won't work. Not one such credit system has been proven yet to be working to actually reduce CO2 emissions. Its a "feel good" scheme to reduce guilt and line the pockets of the scam artists.

[gator]

JACK BE NIMBLE
JACK BE FAST

GLOBAL WARMING
CAN KISS MY booty...............

hickory, dickory dock,
20 pages of bandwidth wasted on this load of crock.

gator

[duckkiller]

I'm lost

[Po Monkey Lounger]

gator, go make some beer or something

[MSDawg870]

This subject is so rediculous that we have resorted to poetry.

Commies are red

The ocean is blue

Gore is full of schit

And so are you.

[JDgator]

This thread is legendary.

Keep it going, boys. Maybe it will be our longest ever.

[Double R 2]

Fat man and skinny man win to da zoo

Fat man farted and skinny man flew.

Fat man in jail fo mo gas in da air

Hamma tinks we all neet t' be dere

Brudder po monk' be aigging on like hell

so we be calln his lawya booty, git out on bail

one, two, three, fo

i's just anuther nappy headed CO2 ho

[Money]

Bankermane's got da Global Warming solved...

http://media.putfile.com/Big-Mamma-On-Sat-Nite

[gator]

gator, go make some beer or something

fee fie foe figger..........................................now, when's state play

gator

[Hammer]

BY THROUGH WITH YOU, I MEAN I AM THROUGH ATTEMPTING TO DEAL WITH YOU....NO MORE COMMENTARY BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO POST EVIDENCE TO EVIDENCE YOUR IGNORANCE...

Climate change on the ground

Historians may look back at this spring as a real turning point on global warming - a time when politicians, policymakers and planners began to take real action on reducing greenhouse gas emissions and improving energy efficiency. And much of the action at the city and state level is manifesting in urban planning and land policy.

As New York Times environmental reporter Andy Revkin pointed out at the American Society of Journalists and Authors conference in New York this month, zoning has become a climate issue.

Climate change was the common theme and underlying issue at the American Planning Association conference earlier this month in Philadelphia, which drew over 6,000 planners, elected and appointed officials and others, on everything from transit-oriented development to form-based codes. Two-dozen big-city planners convened at the APA meeting by the Lincoln Institute agreed that climate action plans such as those in Seattle and Portland , Oregon, would be at the top of the municipal agenda. Over 450 mayors have signed on to the US Mayors Climate Protection Agreement . "This is our time," said Washington, D.C. planning director Harriet Tregoning, referring to cities on the front lines of climate change.

Initiatives underway in cities include such steps as replacing street and traffic lighting, instituting district energy systems for infill development, encouraging redevelopment near transit, and retrofitting older buildings to make them more energy efficient -- a move announced by Cambridge, Mass. last month.

On Earth Day, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced his long-range sustainability plan , including an $8 charge for motorists entering Manhattan below 86th Street, similar to London's congestion pricing system. The goal is to reduce auto emissions and create a fund for transportation projects.

In Massachusetts, Governor Deval Patrick recently announced that the environmental impact review for major projects would now scrutinize emissions and energy use, including, for example, the amount of driving required to reach an new office park.

[tunica]

who was it that said arguing with a Man on the internet is like:

[Ducks be us]

I farted

[gator]

I farted

BWAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAA

gator

[tunica]

I farted

[Hammer]

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