The "RUINING" of duck hunting???

[MsBowMan]

Bowman

I am not bashing.... but.....and before i start (i only hunt private lands as well).....i have heard you make the same comment over and over about how deer hunters do this and that.....well i found out a long time ago the duck hunting and deer hunting are as different as hockey and basketball...no deer hunter has ever tried to steal my lease.......no deer hunter has ever....well hell it aint worth it

if the attitude you have received upsets you ......and i dont mean to sound rude but.....stick with the deer cause i do not forsee the duckhunter attitude changing anytime soon

food for thought

gh

I'm not here to fight, but your response is typical of "duck hunters". You basically said if you don't like, then leave........

Well I don't like it, and I'm not going anywhere. Unfortunately, you have just proven my point about most duck hunters. Duck hunters attitudes NEED to change, for the better. I think I will hang in there, and probably hunt some public land that I contribute to this weekend!! So move over, make room, and be nice.

[Double R 2]

Before accepting as truth what we are told, we should first ask ourselves some hard questions:

How is it that 50 or fewer years ago waterfowlers in Mississippi and Louisianna shot migrator Canada geese on an annual basis but are now reduced to shooting resident birds only?

Why is it that 4 of the "Big 5" of ducks - mallards, black ducks, pintail, canvasback, lesser scaup - are subject to heavily restricted seasons and bag limits?

Why is it that the snow goose population grew to epidemic proportions before increased bag limits and an unprecedented conservation order was enacted as neccesary - and that some would say is futile - to reduce the population before they completely destroy one of the most fragile ecosystems on earth? Did the guv really even have an accurate idea of what that population was? If so, why'd it take epidimic levels before instituting the conservation order? If not, why not and what are the implications with respect to our ducks?!

Why did the USFWS quit releasing it's annual Fall Flight Index?

Why do so many hunters from the Atlantic Flyway flock to Mississippi, Arkansas and Louisanna during duck season?

Why are released bird operations gaining popularity? Why are there programs to augment wild bird populations along the eastern seaboard with captive reared birds?

Arkansas representatives motioned on two separate occaisons during the last Mississippi Flyway Council meeting that ROBOs be banned----why was it never seconded (and remember, MN was on of the first states to provide emperical evidence which demonstrated that robo hunters kill 3x the number of ducks of non robo hunters)?

[GREENHEAD]

actually you just proved a serious point on your own.....

"move over, make room, and be nice"

If i was on public land before you got there and was already set up.....you really expect me to move over and make room.....well jokes on you


I never used to set up on anybody.....but this "attitude' comes from many nights of being in a duckhole at 3am to have some jackass show up at 20 minutes before shooting time and set up on top of me....do you call that fair...shoul i make room and be nice

why is my attitude bad you ask.....because you can't hunt public land anymore.....name 1 place you can go where there are not hunters set up every 75 yards on public land

you will find this attitude justified.....and just to put it bluntly.....i am glad i hunt private land because the first son of a bitch that tells me to move over and be nice will either dish an asswhoopin or take 1

gh

[torch]

Bowman you mentioned that you hunt private land and buy your state and federal duck stamps. Which you thinks helps public land. Wrong your state duck stamp money goes to DU Cananda thats right Canada. So everyone that buys the stamps thinks all that money goes to WMA's and it isn't true. I wish they would take that money and spend it on WMA's but they don't.

[MsBowMan]

No need to get so excited GreenHead........I sense a great deal of hostility, especially from a man that hunts "private land". I think I have made my point........and yea, that move over comment was a jab.............

It's all about attitude............a desire to change will only come from inside. A "redneck" mentality of "I'll kick your ass", is never good for any sport. That attitude is harmful and destructive. Good luck!

BTW........I have always been on the giving end of ass whoopin's with confrontational rednecks!!

[GREENHEAD]

BTW----yo mama should have warned you that there is always someone out there badder

this redneck resides in shelby ms at napa auto parts every thursday - sunday

you may give.....but you will also RECEIVE

i guess "redneck' in your book is defined by someone who disagrees with you.....i bet if i set up 25 yards from you after you have been there 3 hours....well to quote ole Jeff Foxworty "YOU JUST MIGHT BE A REDNECK!!"

[MsBowMan]

You said:

"this redneck resides in shelby ms at napa auto parts every thursday - sunday"

Good a definition of redneck as you will ever find........

[GREENHEAD]

hey torch...bet you like that one huh???

why don't you come by and say hello???

gh

[Cotten]

[quote="Double R 2"]Arkansas representatives motioned on two separate occaisons during the last Mississippi Flyway Council meeting that ROBOs be banned----why was it never seconded (and remember, MN was on of the first states to provide reasearch evidence which demonstrated that robo hunters kill 3x the number of ducks of non robo hunters)?[/quote]

Double R 2, I agree the ROBO's are an unfair advantage, especially with young birds. Do you think the ban in Arkansas will lead to a nationwide ban? Or will $$$ and politics prevail? And if all electronic devices were banned nationwide, how much of a duck population increase in the south would you anticipate.

[Double R 2]

Who knows? Arkansas reduced the hen mallard limit to one and no one followed that I can recall...maybe if robos were banned we'd start getting more of those dumb juvenile birds like the good old days.

[sportsman450]

I do think that reducing the season and limits on a national scale would benefit southern hunters by reducing the pressure regardless of wheather it helped flight numbers or not, and if the limits and days were reduced, a lot of those 700,000 N. Dakota ducks would make it a little further south.

I don't agree with you. It probably won't reduce any pressure. It will probably cause more southern hunters to travel North before MS duck season opens.

I personally like to know that I can hunt LA/AR a week or more before our season opens depending on the framework. If we get any 30 day seasons anytime soon, I'm sure I'm not the only one who will be traveling into the northern states to get my fix in Oct/Nov. I'm sure there are plenty of guys from this board alone who are doing it already?

I would only expect the pressure to increase in the Northern states, further increasing the pressure on the ducks by the time they get here. COmbined that with the other factors pressuring the ducks by the time they get here, would spell disaster for us in MS.

Why is it so hard to even contemplate a little self-sacrifice? To think that the reduction in pressure from local hunters would be overshadowed by out of staters going north is quite a stretch of the imagination. I would think that most of the hunters who can afford to travel north to hunt already do, but would be much less likely to do so if the limit was 3 ducks!

[MsBowMan]

My god...........am I in a room with a bunch of menopause women? What a sensitive bunch.........Who gives a crap if you robo? I can see where it can scare away just as many as it attracts......

Take a deep breath, enjoy nature, enjoy you hunting buddies, but lay off all the melodramatic crap......geeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz