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Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:49 am
by GulfCoast
Bruce wrote:Well explain to me how there is a difference between the two. Overpaying is overpaying.
Sure. A brand "X" widget is historically worth $10, and someone from Mississippi pays $15 for it. Then someone from OOS pays $45 for the same thing. The guy from MS overpaid, the guy from OOS vastly overpaid. And now, some seller thinks every widget ought to fetch $45, since AlabamaJama paid him over 4 times what he used to get for the same thing. And when some reasonable MS fellow wants to buy a widget, he get sticker shock at being quoted $45 'cause "some other dude just paid that." Simpatico.
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:51 am
by GulfCoast
Outlaw, we posted at the same time. I like your explanation better.
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:25 pm
by jacksbuddy
outlaw josey wales wrote:well look at it like this -----
sally has some 2 dollar coochie and someone from florida,ga or alabama meet sally and give her 10 for it and realize sallys coochie is worth maybe 2 bucks . well sally now expects the coochie to go for atleast 10 bucks but may settle for 8 if she is in a bind . thus driving the people who know sallys coochie is worth 2 bucks to pay 8 to get it again if they want it.
it is alll simple math but some think they getting a hell of a deal on some half !@# coochie or a duck hole that really aint worth it . in turn the next guy gonna have to pay the same price or close even though it aint all that because some dumbass drove up price of duckholes or coochie it seems in mississippi
smartass
Leave it to OJW to equate a duck hole with 'coochie'.
Now boys, I've been to a duck hole or two in my lifetime. AND, I've been to coochie a time or two in my life as well. I can truthfully testify that them two thangs ain't exactly the same.
For the record, I HAVE duck hunted with OJW before with relative success. However, after this analogy, I do believe that extra precautions will be taken on future hunting expeditions.
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:27 pm
by Bruce
Oh, I get it! Only reasonable "locals" lease duckholes. I'm glad you cleared that up.
I guess the four guys from Meridian on the land next to mine who are paying big money didn't get the memo....
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:40 pm
by GordonGekko
I have hunted holes that I would pay $20,000 to lease and holes that I would not pay a red cent for or even burn the gas to go to again. The bottom line is knowing the difference...lots of folks are just buying a "pig in a poke" whether OOS or not...educated folks rarely drive up the price of unworthy property, but as P.T. Barnum was alleged to have said there is one "born every minute" and that drives up prices....
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:53 pm
by Bruce
That's my point.
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:09 pm
by GulfCoast
Bruce wrote:That's my point.
That was everyone's point.
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:13 pm
by GulfCoast
Bruce wrote:Oh, I get it! Only reasonable "locals" lease duckholes. I'm glad you cleared that up.
I guess the four guys from Meridian on the land next to mine who are paying big money didn't get the memo....
Congratulations on knowing some folks from MS that were not too bright. But I am willing to bet there are more "overpayers" from OOS than Mississippi. A collective $100K in leases around my area that were looked at once, dry, and extortionate prices paid without any history of ducks will be my first exhibit.
Since you agreed with GG that "educated folks" rarely drive up prices, who is more educated on the values of duck land in the delta, MS boys who have been leasing land there 20 years or more, or a bunch of guys from OOS who have not? There are some "educated" OOS guys, but damn sure not the dudes that were slinging coin around this year.
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:00 pm
by Bruce
I'd bet that there are a lot more leases going to people from Jackson, Tupelo, Oxford, Meridian, Olive Branch, Etc than to out of state people.
It's evident that you and others don't like out of staters but your assertion that they drive up the cost of leasing more than locals is assinine.
That's my .02
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:05 pm
by novacaine
"Well this hasn't been a great morning but you know we are not guaranteed tomorrow. And we only have a limited number of days and sunrises. And I plan on sharing as may of those sunrises with you boys as possible."
That is a wise man right there! I like him and don't even know him.
Since we are on the money train/lease topic- if we had to go to a lower bag limit (say 3 or 4 or God forbid 2) how long would the high lease prices hold up? It would probably drop like a rock after the first year.
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:07 pm
by GulfCoast
If you can read the previous posts, many of us have first hand knowledge of OOS folks driving up the price. I have already gotten calls from landowners wanting to lease land that OOS guys have dumped. Drink what you like, the kool-aid is free.
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:14 pm
by happyhollowchopper
you may have a great point but this wasnt started over leasing land it was over why some people hunt to start with
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:21 pm
by GulfCoast
Most of us hunt ducks in order to be able to shoot ducks, and work our dogs, and hang out with friends in the blind and at camp. We can watch the sun come up at home, so I don't buy the "commune with nature" bit. However, most don't let the lack of ducks (when they are scarce) keep us from going out again and again.
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:51 pm
by GordonGekko
To paraphrase my buddy gator...all I know is if there were to be only one greenhead left on the planet I hope, no pray, that I am there to wad him up like used newpaper and enjoy the sight of my dog carrying him back to me dead as a hammer....
Re: well how many
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:37 pm
by novacaine
GordonGekko wrote:To paraphrase my buddy gator...all I know is if there were to be only one greenhead left on the planet I hope, no pray, that I am there to wad him up like used newpaper and enjoy the sight of my dog carrying him back to me dead as a hammer....
I like that- ol Gator has a way with words. I hope to beat ya'll to that hole if that ever happens so i can fold him first but i will retrieve him my self since i don't have a dog!