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Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:57 am
by teul2
You guys kill me.
Just walk the other way.

Ya bunch of fraidy cats. Yall act like its a midget clown from hell coming after your soul.

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:09 am
by BR549
tombstone wrote:diamond back water snake is mean (non poisonous) I hate em!
Yea they are! Leave a nasty scar on your hand or arm too when they get you! They don't like to let go either! You just about have to pull em off. That big black sucker is about the same way. Just keep comin back when you trying to clean out a pipe or something! I've slapped em, hit em with a stick, slung em 20-30 feet thru the air and them suckers still come back! Sometimes you just have to kill em but I sure hate to!

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:29 am
by jacksbuddy
teul2 wrote:Ya bunch of fraidy cats. Yall act like its a midget clown from hell coming after your soul.
Hey, that,s cheating! Pulling the clown card during a snake discussion will cause nightmares. :P

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:42 am
by edub20
water moccasin

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water moccasin or cottonmouth, highly venomous snake , Ancistrodon piscivorus, of the swamps and bayous of the S United States. Like the closely related copperhead, it is a pit viper and has a heat-sensitive organ for detecting warm-blooded prey. The young are born live. The young snake is a pale reddish brown with transverse dark brown bands edged with white; as it ages the colors dull to a blotched olive or brown and then to an unmarked olive or blackish in old specimens. The maximum length is 6 ft (2 m), the average from 3 to 4 ft (90-120 cm). A good climber, the water moccasin often relaxes on branches overhanging the water. If startled it erects its head and shows the white interior of its mouth—hence the name cottonmouth. It eats both warm-blooded and cold-blooded animals. It is aggressive in the wild state but may become quite tame in captivity. It is classified in the phylum Chordata , subphylum Vertebrata, class Reptilia, order Squamata, family Crotalidae.

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water moccasin or cottonmouth, highly venomous snake , Ancistrodon piscivorus, of the swamps and bayous of the S United States. Like the closely related copperhead, it is a pit viper and has a heat-sensitive organ for detecting warm-blooded prey. The young are born live. The young snake is a pale reddish brown with transverse dark brown bands edged with white; as it ages the colors dull to a blotched olive or brown and then to an unmarked olive or blackish in old specimens. The maximum length is 6 ft (2 m), the average from 3 to 4 ft (90-120 cm). A good climber, the water moccasin often relaxes on branches overhanging the water. If startled it erects its head and shows the white interior of its mouth—hence the name cottonmouth. It eats both warm-blooded and cold-blooded animals. It is aggressive in the wild state but may become quite tame in captivity. It is classified

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:49 am
by Beaudog1
Thank god you cleared that up for everyone....

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:57 am
by duramax
BR549 wrote: Exactly! There is even one out there with a Diamond shaped head that is not poisionous. It's called the Diamond Back WATER MOCASSIN! He is seldom seen, looks just like a rattle snake and very seldom ever comes out of large bodies of water. The only way to tell the difference in him and his poisinous cousins is the shape of his eyes! I've only seen a couple of these in over 50 years of hunting and fishing but they are here!
It's actually a Diamondback water snake. Its a very rare snake and the likelyhood that someone would even see one to be able to confuse a Cottonmouth (water moccasin) with the diamondback water snake is very low. Plus they really don't look that similar. Perhaps in coloring, but not in shape.

Here's a link:
http://herpcenter.ipfw.edu/index.htm?ht ... ndex.htm&2

Pic of Diamondback water snake
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Pic of Cottonmouth (Water moccasin)

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Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:05 pm
by donia
we always called the dark brown ones with a faint pattern cottonmouths and the ones with a more pronounced pattern water moccasins, eventhough we knew they were the same-just let us know what we were looking for, to find it quicker.

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:18 pm
by Bankermane
They are all anacondas to me.

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:09 pm
by Seymore
Well, I say or should I say yell one thing when I come upon one in the wild no matter what type it is

SNAKE!!!!!!!!

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:38 pm
by Deltaquack
duramax wrote:
BR549 wrote: No I meant WATER MOCASSINS! Only the two breeds of cottonmouth the copperhead and what some people refer to as the "pigmy rattler" are the only poisionous water mocassins we have here in MS. The rest are NON POISIONOUS! All your "water snakes" ARE water mocassins
Yikes! I don't think you know how wrong you are. You might want to give yourself a lesson in herpetology.

Here's MS non-venomous snakes:
http://www.phsource.us/PH/ME/Snakes/index.html

Here are the venomous snakes :
http://www.phsource.us/PH/ME/Snakes/Venom.html


And just so you know that Water Moccasin = Cottonmouth, and only Cottonmouth:
http://www.uga.edu/srelherp/snakes/agkpis.htm
Exactly, I took Herpetology, Coastal Ecology, Zoology, etc. in college and we had to try and catch one of every species we could find. There's only 5 poisonous snakes in MS. And like said above the ones on the water that are nonpoisonous are referred to as water Snakes not mocassins. The water mocassin is the same thing as a cottonmouth. I've seen a few diamondback water snakes with the most recent being in my garage on the doorstep last summer when my wife went to open the door. It had come off of the pond on the golf course.

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:23 pm
by Seymore
According to The University of Mississippi Medical Center there are nine species of poisonous snakes in Mississippi; the Eastern Diamondback, Canebrake Rattlesnake, Carolina Pigmy, Dusky Pigmy, Western Pigmy, Eastern Cottonmouth, Western Cottonmouth, Southern Copperhead, Eastern Coral

http://poisoncontrol.umc.edu/documents/ ... nimals.pdf

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:57 pm
by BR549
Seymore wrote:According to The University of Mississippi Medical Center there are nine species of poisonous snakes in Mississippi; the Eastern Diamondback, Canebrake Rattlesnake, Carolina Pigmy, Dusky Pigmy, Western Pigmy, Eastern Cottonmouth, Western Cottonmouth, Southern Copperhead, Eastern Coral

http://poisoncontrol.umc.edu/documents/ ... nimals.pdf

Ding Ding Ding!!!!! You are correct my friend! And six of those snakes listed are in the MOCASSIN family! All three of the pigmys both the cottonmouths and the southern copperhead. The other 40 subspecies of mocassins are not venonmous!

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:14 am
by Seymore
Moccasins comprise the genus Agkistrodon, which includes the cottonmouth (Agkistrodon piscivorus) and copperhead (Agkistrodon contortrix) in the southeastern United States. Any of the subspecies of Agkistrodon then are Moccasins. Through colloquial use, moccasin has been used to refer to the cottonmouth exclusively. However, the cottonmouth is not technically the only member of the moccasin family.

Snakes are cool creatures that deserve to be left alone. That said I am scared to death of them and scream like a little girl when I come upon one. I never hang around long enough to figure out whether they are poisonous or not as I'm usually in the next county before I hit the ground after jumping. :lol:

I'm watching this idiot on Wild Nation chasing Pacific Rattlers. What a dumbass.

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:18 am
by BR549
Seymore wrote:Moccasins comprise the genus Agkistrodon, which includes the cottonmouth (Agkistrodon piscivorus) and copperhead (Agkistrodon contortrix) in the southeastern United States. Any of the subspecies of Agkistrodon then are Moccasins. Through colloquial use, moccasin has been used to refer to the cottonmouth exclusively. However, the cottonmouth is not technically the only member of the moccasin family.

Snakes are cool creatures that deserve to be left alone. That said I am scared to death of them and scream like a little girl when I come upon one. I never hang around long enough to figure out whether they are poisonous or not as I'm usually in the next county before I hit the ground after jumping. :lol:

I'm watching this idiot on Wild Nation chasing Pacific Rattlers. What a dumbass.
Ding Ding Ding!!!!!!! Correct again my friend!!! You shoulda come fishin with us yesterday! We wore em out here! Quackhead and I caught a couple dozen bass in pretty short order! Didn't see the first snake either! Come go!

Re: Speaking of Snakes...

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:16 am
by bigwater
heres webster's definition of a butter snake..

Butter Snake... butter not get to close to bigwater or he schit himself...