River is fixing to get serious, boys!!!

[ScottBrown]

Thanks Red, Keep us in the loop.

Scott

[quote="redspeckable"][quote="kb7722"][quote="ScottBrown"]What are folks hearing at Lake Saint John, LA?

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I haven't heard anything out of the ordinary for that community. Still hearing mumblings about the levee at Waterproof, but right now that's all hearsay and nothing firm has been confirmed. Will let you know if I hear of anything else.[/quote]

[Deltamud77]

Saw a river flood projection map of the Natchez area....looks like all of Giles Island is going to be underwater. I am willing to bet that is going to have a huge negative impact on a pristine piece of hunting ground...not to mention the money relative to investment in the deer and turkey population that is going to wash down the river.

Not sure where the highpoint is on giles island, if it is in the middle it will be hard for the wildlife. They can get out of there pretty easy if some get out early and or do not get stuck in the middle of the island.

The problem with Giles Island (and other similar pieces of land), it that it is truly an island, even when the water is down. In the summer under normal water conditions, the deer would have a decent swim to the north, south or west in most places to get off of the island. The water is up now...do the deer know not to swim east...how far is the swim in any other direction. I would assume that the Ashcrofts that own the island are pretty worried at the moment...not to mention losing the infrastructure on the island.

[Faithful Retrievers]

There is still alot of grain out there in bins. Had one client about to lose $750,000 they were all but drowning big trucks trying to get the rest out. Last count I heard still had 50,000 and water was almost too deep. The problem is there is no place to put the grain. We are set to crest Monday about 6" below the sea wall " I hope".
Are those fish ponds the ones R Hinds is partner in?
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[arduckslayer]

The problem with Giles Island (and other similar pieces of land), it that it is truly an island, even when the water is down. In the summer under normal water conditions, the deer would have a decent swim to the north, south or west in most places to get off of the island. The water is up now...do the deer know not to swim east...how far is the swim in any other direction. I would assume that the Ashcrofts that own the island are pretty worried at the moment...not to mention losing the infrastructure on the island.

The swim north wouldn't do em any good for sure. That's Rifle Point and it's under water and they're gonna take water in the second story of their lodge if it goes to 64 (the new prediction as of today). The swim south and west would be short (relatively speaking, crossing the old river is still over 100 yards wide when it's in its banks).

[riverat]

Redspeckable: I think Vidalia is 70ft of elevation, and the river gauge is not based on elevation. If my math is correct 70ft of elevation is about 62ft of river based on the Natchez gauge. That would mean levees are three feet short

That could very well be true. I'm going strictly based on what I've heard from the mayor and sheriff. Of course, I would trust some on here more than what comes out of their mouth.
Let me know what you find out.

I have heard the 62ft number from other sources. I believe it was in an article in the Natchez Democrat.

elevation is shot at sea level and not river level, so to figure what you can take you add 17 ft. to the river stage at natchez and go from there.

64' river + 17'= 81 feet above sea level

levee at Vidalia= 88 feet above sea level thus we are still 7 feet from coming over.

Ain't promising anything for the levees from Whitehall south to Blackhawk

[mshunter77]

The problem with Giles Island (and other similar pieces of land), it that it is truly an island, even when the water is down. In the summer under normal water conditions, the deer would have a decent swim to the north, south or west in most places to get off of the island. The water is up now...do the deer know not to swim east...how far is the swim in any other direction. I would assume that the Ashcrofts that own the island are pretty worried at the moment...not to mention losing the infrastructure on the island.

The swim north wouldn't do em any good for sure. That's Rifle Point and it's under water and they're gonna take water in the second story of their lodge if it goes to 64 (the new prediction as of today). The swim south and west would be short (relatively speaking, crossing the old river is still over 100 yards wide when it's in its banks).

Deltamud, giles island is not as remote as other islands and the levee is just across the old river chanel. They should be able to go south or west fairly easily in the early stages. Now if they get caught in the interior of the island(as i am asssuming will happen since that is probably where the highest land is) that would be a long swim. Now some people do not realize how far deer can swim. They can swim the mississippi river when it is normal, but they are exhausted afterwards. Chances are any place like that is gonna take a hard hit.

[bustercat64]

I hate to post up stuff about other people's business I hope no one gets mad being moving stuff for the last 2 days and I am going back in the morning. I took some pics yesterday and today thought some people would like to see the difference.

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[ntzhunter]

I believe that most of the deer on Giles and Rifle Point will survive. We have to remember that although this will be a devestating flood none the less but the deer are healthy. Theyve had plenty of food and they are strong. There will be deer that die but HOPEFULLY most will survive around the Adams/Jefferson/Wilkinson county areas. I cant speak of anywhere else. I know I heard after the 08 flood from a guy who's father worked at the Hydoelectric Facility, they were pulling alot of dead deer and hogs off the screens daily.

[peewee]

I believe that most of the deer on Giles and Rifle Point will survive. We have to remember that although this will be a devestating flood none the less but the deer are healthy. Theyve had plenty of food and they are strong. There will be deer that die but HOPEFULLY most will survive around the Adams/Jefferson/Wilkinson county areas. I cant speak of anywhere else. I know I heard after the 08 flood from a guy who's father worked at the Hydoelectric Facility, they were pulling alot of dead deer and hogs off the screens daily.

Even if the deer do survive you will loose one whole year of fawns. When these does get stressed they will start aborting.

[Deltaquack]

I saw over 100 deer last night in a 20 acre or so field. Several were there again tonight. The deer aren't as dumb as we think. Most of them get out. These were about 1000 yards from the levee. I saw several all along hwy 1.

[quack_a_tack]

My dad was headed to beulah yesterday and said there had to have been 200-300 deer in a field right next to some woods which will remain unnamed.

[TODO]

Thats my boat on the bottom of the spur dyke in bustercat's first pic. Saw a doe floating yesterday. Its gonna be a mess for the deer, no matter how you wanna look at it.

[dukmisr2005]

it will definitely impact the wildlife. i wonder how much disease will be out there when water goes down from all the dead wildlife?? i wonder if we will ever know the full impact of the flood. only good part is it may knock the hog pop down some.

[MudHog]

local news channel said that the BC Spillway is set to be opened at 8AM on Monday morning.

[Bercy]

If it is going to top the backwater levee as they are thinking it is (and there is a chance that causes the levee to wash), why wouldn't they open the gates before that happens and then close the gates once the water river side crests? Might not be able to move that much water, but seems like it would be better going through the gate than over the levee.