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I had some guys at a public spot roll up from florida with some home made surface drive motors that had harley engines on them. If u think that motor u saw was loud.... u aint seen shat till uve heard a harley fat boy with no pipes come roaring through at daylight.

redleg3316 wrote:I had some guys at a public spot roll up from florida with some home made surface drive motors that had harley engines on them. If u think that motor u saw was loud.... u aint seen shat till uve heard a harley fat boy with no pipes come roaring through at daylight.

that's hardcore, right there....belt drives?

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Is this a ban on all surface drives or just surface drives with no muffler? I'm all for the latter however you can't ban a surface drive and expect longtails not to be banned either. I don't have a dog in the race the only noise I'm making is a j stroke with a paddle.

However one day I'd like to own a surface drive and a comPlete ban on all mud motors is a bit much because of a few jacksasses. If it is for mudmotors with no mufflers please make this clear to the dept. Wouldn't want em getting all crazy with the pen and enacting an outright ban.

greenheadgrimreaper wrote:Is this a ban on all surface drives or just surface drives with no muffler? I'm all for the latter however you can't ban a surface drive and expect longtails not to be banned either. I don't have a dog in the race the only noise I'm making is a j stroke with a paddle.

However one day I'd like to own a surface drive and a comPlete ban on all mud motors is a bit much because of a few jacksasses. If it is for mudmotors with no mufflers please make this clear to the dept. Wouldn't want em getting all crazy with the pen and enacting an outright ban.

GHGR,
I'm all for the use of any surface drive as long as it has a muffler on it. I'm not wanting to ban any surface drive motor UNLESS some topwater yahoo has taken the muffler off to intentionally make it LOUDER. A SD motor with no muffler serves no purpose but being a super loud obnoxous nuesence to other hunters and running every duck out of the area.

crackhead wrote:

Double R 2 wrote:
It's lack of upbringings, plain and simple. And that's the worst part. In the absence of someone - anyone - having taught them the right way to conduct themselves and to hunt ducks (or anything), they show up with loud attention getters that say: Look at me! I'm too stupid to kill a duck, but don't I look and sound cool!

Bing f'n O

The true duck hunters who grew up cuttn their teeth on a sport they love will be no such thing of in the future.

The commercialization of hunting has been the single worst thing for all areas of the sport. This is simply a symptom of the greater problem that Double R hinted at. The way most of us hunted growing up is quickly becoming a thing of the past. Sadly many folks hunting today have no regard for the history and tradition of hunting as their view of hunting is shaped by what they see on television, not what their father or grandfather taught them. I understand that everyone may not have been as fortunate as I was to grow up in a family that has a long hunting tradition where I was able to learn from the wisdom of my elders. As hunting has become commercialized and thus popularized, more people are coming into the sport which is necessary to ensure that we will all have the ability to hunt well into the future. The downside is many of the people new to the sport could care less how things were done in the past. We've seen deer hunting change from what it was as little as 20 years ago. When I was growing up we ran dogs as did every one around us. No one ever would have thought there was a need to pen up the deer so we could grow a monster buck. We hunted for the sport of it and for the enjoyment of fellowship with our friends and family. Turkey hunting has changed to the point that we are indoctrinated with the belief that we have to have the latest call or the newest camo to kill a turkey. When I started hunting with my grandfather almost 30 years ago, you wore whatever camo or green shirt you could scroung up and used a homemade slate call. Bird hunting used to be a sport anyone with a bird dog could enjoy. Those days have long since passed. Duck hunting is experiencing the same evolution. It is becoming more about the gear, less about the game and it makes me sick. There are moments in hunting that transend all of the commercial trappings most ascribe to the sport. The feeling we get watching a flock of circling mallards making their last pass or a group of gadwalls with their wings locked and feet dropped have nothing to do with having the latest gear or newest engine. That is what we must impress upon the new hunters among us. It is the sport, the endless chess match between the hunter and hunted that drives us. Some hunters never will get that simple notion and that's why we'll keep enduring idiots who remove the mufflers from their mud motors.

augustus_65 wrote:The commercialization of hunting has been the single worst thing for all areas of the sport. This is simply a symptom of the greater problem that Double R hinted at. The way most of us hunted growing up is quickly becoming a thing of the past. Sadly many folks hunting today have no regard for the history and tradition of hunting as their view of hunting is shaped by what they see on television, not what their father or grandfather taught them. I understand that everyone may not have been as fortunate as I was to grow up in a family that has a long hunting tradition where I was able to learn from the wisdom of my elders. As hunting has become commercialized and thus popularized, more people are coming into the sport which is necessary to ensure that we will all have the ability to hunt well into the future. The downside is many of the people new to the sport could care less how things were done in the past. We've seen deer hunting change from what it was as little as 20 years ago. When I was growing up we ran dogs as did every one around us. No one ever would have thought there was a need to pen up the deer so we could grow a monster buck. We hunted for the sport of it and for the enjoyment of fellowship with our friends and family. Turkey hunting has changed to the point that we are indoctrinated with the belief that we have to have the latest call or the newest camo to kill a turkey. When I started hunting with my grandfather almost 30 years ago, you wore whatever camo or green shirt you could scroung up and used a homemade slate call. Bird hunting used to be a sport anyone with a bird dog could enjoy. Those days have long since passed. Duck hunting is experiencing the same evolution. It is becoming more about the gear, less about the game and it makes me sick. There are moments in hunting that transend all of the commercial trappings most ascribe to the sport. The feeling we get watching a flock of circling mallards making their last pass or a group of gadwalls with their wings locked and feet dropped have nothing to do with having the latest gear or newest engine. That is what we must impress upon the new hunters among us. It is the sport, the endless chess match between the hunter and hunted that drives us. Some hunters never will get that simple notion and that's why we'll keep enduring idiots who remove the mufflers from their mud motors.

Well stated and right on target.

quote greenheadgrimreaper: I don't have a dog in the race the only noise I'm making is a j stroke with a paddle.


Funny right there.

Sounds like 6 flat tires would end their hunting career. Put a donut under the wheel well so bigun can sniff out which vehicle is them...

Dammit, I wasn't even going to weigh in on this but the more I think about some jack leg ruining a hunt it just pizzes me off. It's all about a lack of respect and a sense of entitlement. These are the same people that set up on top of you, skybust, call all damn morning long, scream their dogs name all morning long and then stand around the boat launch with that stupid booty mean mug look on their face as if they invented duck hunting. Dadgummit, now I sound just like my dad.

Not saying that I am not for it, but why push anothe WMA regulation, when the regulation already exists?? Thats all we need is more regulations, why not just point the law out to the warden. If that does not do it file harassment charges.

quackalot wrote:Not saying that I am not for it, but why push anothe WMA regulation, when the regulation already exists?? Thats all we need is more regulations, why not just point the law out to the warden. If that does not do it file harassment charges.

I've talked to our local conservation officer whom I have a pretty good rapport with. I brought this matter to his attention but he says that there isn't anything he can do about it. As far as filing harassment charges I'm not going to cut my hunt short and waste a day to run to the courthouse 15 miles away to sign an affidavit against someone with super loud pipes. If there is a rule on the books prohibiting the use of a motor with no muffler the problem is solved and everyone can go back to hunting like normal white folks.

Double R 2 wrote:Next thing you know, they'll be wearing over-sized waders down below their waistlines

That's funny right there.