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Thinking about getting a new pup to use for ducks and maybe a little shed hunting and was wanting some advise from DS I've had a dog a trained before and was simply a meat dog which I'm wanting same thing nothing to fancy what's the best way to include shed hunting do I train for ducks first then work in shed or vise versa I know I have to get ob down first any advise would be great

drake09 wrote:Thinking about getting a new pup to use for ducks and maybe a little shed hunting and was wanting some advise from DS I've had a dog a trained before and was simply a meat dog which I'm wanting same thing nothing to fancy what's the best way to include shed hunting do I train for ducks first then work in shed or vise versa I know I have to get ob down first any advise would be great

Regardless of what venue your pup will work in, the first thing he needs is the same thing all working retrievers need; Basics...formal, complete Basics.

The components of Basics in order

1) “Here”
2) “Heel & Sit”
3) “Hold”; automatically evolves to Walking “Hold, Heel, Sit”
4) “Fetch”; ear pinch, which evolves into Walking “Fetch” & “Fetch-no-fetch”, e-collar conditioning to “Fetch”
5) Pile work, including Mini-pile, Nine bumper pile; AKA Force to pile
6) 3-handed casting; teaching the 3 basic casts – “Back” and both “Over’s”, including 2-hands “Back”
7) Mini tee; includes collar conditioning to all basic commands, transferring to the go, stop, cast functions in micro dimension as preparation for the Single tee. Also includes De-bolting
8 ) Single tee
9) Double tee
10) Water tee with Swim-by

Any element of this process you miss is short changing both you and your dog. This course normally takes around 6 months. The benefits last a lifetime.

EvanG

Or...you can by Chris aikens duck dawg basics, or stawskis DVDs. Both of which I prefer.

Doesn't matter who's dvd you use .......... you still cant skip and leave holes !

I'd listen to Evan! He knows his stuff, and has excellently system/program you can follow.

I also like Jackie mertens puppy program and hillman puppy proram

I urge you to take your pup through a solid puppy program, which will prepare him/her for formal Basics at around 6-8 months of age. Everything is built on that foundation.

EvanG