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IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:23 am
by deltadukman
What are the best options? I would untimately like to go with steel beams, but know they are pricey. Anyone recently built one and have any advice? I have a price for 30' treated wood poles for $115. If we went with steel I beams, they would have to be 40' but I know they would never have to be replaced. Anyone have a good contact for 40' beams and someone that would set and erect them?
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:45 am
by msudawg8087
Sent ya a pm
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:48 pm
by novacaine
Call me.
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:10 pm
by Deltaquack
Are you referring to what to use for the poles to the ground.........or what the structure actually is supported by at the top of the poles?
How tall will the poles be?
Is the ground flat?
Will the poles get wet often?
Will there be a concrete pad under it?
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:24 pm
by deltadukman
Concrete pad. Floods a few times a year, water may stay on it a week to a few weeks during spring rise. Im talking from ground(pad) to the top. Vertical. Ground is fairly flat.
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:28 pm
by TODO
If its something that you plan on being in for awhile I would go metal. Its gonna cost more but should be more sturdy and take the shake out. My place is 23 feet up on pipe and the poles are sunk 12 feet deep and filled with concrete. It doesn't budge. I once had a single wide on telephone poles and it shook like a mofo.
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:49 pm
by deltadukman
I may call you eventually TODO. I didnt think about pipe(assuming you are talking like drillstem) filled with concrete. This would be a long term place.
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:32 pm
by Roach
i've got a camp near Cocodrie, LA.
Last year I had 12 - 38' treated poles sunk 18' in the ground that averaged 14" in diameter. I had 4 - 38'x4"x12" timbers attached to them 11' up and braced it with 2x12's and its pretty solid.
I've got over $6000 in this. Cost of wood adds up fast so check on cost of steel before you commit.
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:34 pm
by Smoke68
Roach wrote:i've got a camp near Cocodrie, LA.
Last year I had 12 - 38' treated poles sunk 18' in the ground that averaged 14" in diameter. I had 4 - 38'x4"x12" timbers attached to them 11' up and braced it with 2x12's and its pretty solid.
I've got over $6000 in this. Cost of wood adds up fast so check on cost of steel before you commit.
Fish camp, duck camp, or both? Something I've always wanted to do is shoot ducks in the morning and fight reds in the afternoon.
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:48 pm
by DanP
I know of quite a few cabins that were raised after the 11' flood with 8, 10, or 12 inch steel pipe. They would drive it in with a trackhoe not sure if they filled with concrete or not. We can normally pick up that kind of pipe for $6-12 per ft.
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:05 pm
by hntrpat1
I've got mine on ten inch pipe twelve feet off the ground
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:40 pm
by JLT
Pour concrete columns in cardboard sauna tubes, steel beams on top with wood floor joist. Go look at what we did for the Blakeneys. Jt
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:42 pm
by BIG TIMBER
Do it just like ours, I can get you the guys number he is from purvis I think. No shaking will be there for ever.
We did the exact same as this.
Pour concrete columns, steel beams on top with wood floor joist. Go look at what we did for the Blakeneys. Jt
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:52 pm
by Deltaquack
JLT wrote:Pour concrete columns in cardboard sauna tubes, steel beams on top with wood floor joist. Go look at what we did for the Blakeneys. Jt
For 10-12 ft off the ground......Sono tubes with concrete work well. If it's fairly high like he's talking about, you are talking major big bucks, though.
10 and 12 inch round pipe is good too.....price wise it'll be a lot cheaper than Sono tubes and concrete. I personally have 12" round pipe that are 12' high with metal plates at the top and bottom that can be welded or bolted to pad.
As for Ibeams.....they aren't designed to stand straight up.......although they'll work. You'd have to make sure you alternate the direction they are turned......if all are in the same direction........they'll be weak to shear or twisting forces. If it's a fairly long span, i probably wouldn't do it. You'd definitely want to get an engineer's ideas on this.
Re: IF(big if) you were building a raised foundation camp
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:11 pm
by the doctor
For that high I would say cross braced steel.
I personally dont like the look the I beams give underneath so would go with 10 to 12 in pipe or square tubing.
the docll