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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:27 am
by Meeka
When is this paper due in your Sociology class?
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:29 am
by hillhunter
dang benny that was deep, you really are learnin something at Delta.
You make a good point though. I think that the reason we classify PETA as liberals is because they as a whole share many of the same views on other issues as democrats, even though they are clearly "radically conservative" on the animal issue.
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:36 am
by hillhunter
I agree benny. The sooner that we let this party system fail (in my mind it already has to some extent) the sooner we can get back to a people's gov't. Right now the way our gov't works, one million voices can't be heard, much less one. The gov't gets bought out by big business and drowns us out.
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:20 am
by Dog's Eye
Academia and the vernacular of political idealogy
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:44 pm
by Double R 2
hillhunter wrote:I agree benny. The sooner that we let this party system fail (in my mind it already has to some extent) the sooner we can get back to a people's gov't. Right now the way our gov't works, one million voices can't be heard, much less one. The gov't gets bought out by big business and drowns us out.
Example, increased taxation of tobacco products. Tax the user instead of the pusher. Big Tobbaco laughs all the way to the bank and their lobbyists get big bonus checks.
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:37 pm
by blu hed
Benny, easy for you to say!!!
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:11 pm
by crow
Well, I guess I just feel like I will always be south of somewhere!
Using this logic, Michael Moore is a conservative Communist, I reckon.
So, Benny, what does "normal" mean to you? Seems you are saying that labels are meaningless without a constant norm. What are the constants, the immovable forces, in your life? What do you consider your "north star."
Heaven's got this one star, and it don't move much.
And, that's the place you ought to aim your soul.
Set it on a spot that knows no seasons,
And be satisfied just to watch old Jordan roll.
Now, does the world have a bellybutton?
I can't get this out of my head.
'Cause if it turns up in my yard, I'll tickle it so hard
The whole world will laugh to wake the dead.
(name that tune...circa 1971-72)
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:39 pm
by BeastMaster
does he still sit at his podeum.. open his thermas..... pour a cup of coffee... then address the class by saying "good morning, are there any questions or comments" and then go into his lecture.... ole Routman was a character...... i can see you and him having some deep thoughts by "beeny"
i had a bunch of drunk dumbies in my class that just wanted the grade
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:41 pm
by REBEL DUCK
He did this past summer beastmaster.
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:13 pm
by tunica du4u
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:13 pm
by Cotten
[quote="Double R 2"]Example, increased taxation of tobacco products. Tax the user instead of the pusher. Big Tobbaco laughs all the way to the bank and their lobbyists get big bonus checks.[/quote]
This is one tax I'm for. Those slime balls (tobacco CEO's) stood before congress and the nation and lied through their teeth about tampering with nicotine levels claiming they "were not" trying to addict people to tobacco all the while doing just that. And targeting our children.

If a black market would not occur I'd be for raising the taxes to a point the vast majority of folks would never start the nasty habit due to cost.
“Most†smokers are some of the brain deadest people I can think of. They thump their cigarette butts everywhere as if the butts were not trash. They pollute the air we breathe as if we enjoy inhaling their stink. And the most ridiculous act they commit is when you see poor kids riding down the road having to inhale that poison because they do not have a choice. Tax the hell out of them; tobacco companies and the users.

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:40 pm
by wuchang
Greetings Abu ben Maniac
I see that the academics are starting to influence you to the point of being verbose.
As for conservative PETA members, I suppose it depends on your perspective--If you believe that a boy is a rat is dog is a pig and that each of the aforementioned have the same rights.....then a conservative label could apply. Assuming of course there has been some judicial body to confirm such rights---as of this moment, I can't think of any court that has conformed a rat's right to life to be equal to that of a boy....but give it time and some one will try and establish said right.
If you are buddhist or a hindu practicing the philosophy of ahisma and believe all animals are sentient beings with souls then perhaps to you are the 'radical' because you don't extend those same rights to carrots,peas or squash---certainly a vegetarian or even a vegan would not wish to see vegetables given legal protection much less have the Bill of Rights applied to said mixed vegetables---and heaven forbid we give said vegetables the right to marry!!
Even in my official capacity as The Grand High Rutabagga of the The First Church of Unviversal Carrot Worship, I would caution anyone to look at labels as merely relevant only to an indication or perspective or even prejudice.
As one of the earlier posts indicated---its ok to spew some of what passes for intellectuall tripe back to get a grade----but realize the true danger is believing your own $#!+ as defined by people who have been able to convince society that they hold the keys to "higher learning", but aren't capable of changing the oil in their automobiles.
Take it from someone who has enough college hours to qualify for a doctorate--if someone didn't periodically swab the spit outta of their mouth--most sociologist would drown
watch yer topknot and don't take any of that liberal/conservative label stuff too seriously--after all despots are despots regardless of political affiliation
Wu
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:42 pm
by Fetch