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People are always going to find something to complain about.

When folks think of MSU baseball, they think of the Left Field Lounge, where it is commonplace for BBQ, raucus fan behavior, and lots of beer and whiskey being consumed. It is a tradition.

Likewise, at UM, a recent tradition has developed at baseball games, with a more loose and raucus outfield atmosphere, where fans and a lot of students cook out and consume adult beverages ---especially in right field, which is the now traditional student area.

There will always be occasional heckling going on by students ---at any college campus. It happened when I was in college, and it still happens today. It happens at UM, and it happens at MSU. A trip to a UM-LSU or UM- MSU football game(or any other sports matchup) is not for the faint hearted or thin skinned.

At Swayze Field, there is approximately 4/5 of the total stadium seating areas where one can stay away from the UM students. That 4/5 of the stadium area is mostly a family friendly area. If you do not like drinking, do not like to see heckling of opposing teams and their fans, or other sorts of typical student behavior, then STAY THE F*&^ OUT OF THE RIGHT FIELD AREA. It will not be your cup of tea. This is where the students are going to be, and yes ---gasp ----they are going to behave as students from time to time. For these reasons, and to explain it for the mentally challenged, right field at UM is probably not the best place for children, pregnant women, and sensitive types. I have sat out there many times with my son (a former UM student) , sharing a few beers, and enjoying some great Rebel baseball ---- I have never witnessed any problems, but I am certain that from time to time, a student or two could get a little too rowdy and do something inappropriate.

I am getting more than a little tired of a handful of people thinking that the rest of the world has to conform to their way of doing things, and their way of thinking, and their way of enjoying an activity. College baseball at MSU and UM is one of the best pure sports left in the state IMO that has not been corrupted by big money, etc., and it is a great way to get to enjoy a game that I love. There is something for everyone at the games ---family, students, etc. Turning the entire stadium into a glorified romperroom playground to satisfy a few(who likely only attend an occasional game) is not my idea of progress or fun.

This old MSU dawg agrees with ya, Po Monkey. I'm smart enough to know where and where not to take my daughter. Plenty of "family oriented places" at college baseball stadiums. Besides, I'm not going to raise my daughter in a glass bubble. When she asks those tough questions, I'll give the tough answers. That's life.

College baseball is still a great venue for a family outing.

Gottahunt, great minds think alike.

Its just amazes me the lengths people will go to complain about something that most of us would just blow off or react to in an entirely different manner -----like finding another place to sit, etc.

I've been to a game at MSU before with my then 9 year old son, and endured a lot of heckling by MSU students and other fans as we left the upper "twilight zone" deck after a Reb win (the year UM was on probation and Dou Innocent ran for 1000 yards --or so it seemed-- against the bullies). But, I realized it for what it was ---just some frustration by some folks who probably had too much to drink. I didn't write a letter to the editor condemning the entire fan base of MSU, or trying to make it into something more than it was. It did not stop me from returning to games at MSU. I have great friends who are MSU alums and fans (some who post on this board), and I would never indict them for something some dumbass did in an isolated incident. I am certain that every college football fan on this board can tell a story about something inappropriate that happended at just about any school in the SEC or elsewhere. I've experienced inappropriate things at UM football games , in front of my child and my little sister, from UM fans. It is just a part of what happens at sporting events. It can always be better, but such is reality.

But, mark my words. There will continue to be those who will try to destroy and take all the fun and traditions out of college baseball in MS. They will try to impose their puritan agenda on the rest of us ---- all in the name of "progress". Any perceived offensive conduct or alcohol related incident will be blown totally out of proportion to justify their demands. And ironically, "they" are usually not the ones who provide a lot of the support for the program anyway.

The super regional at UM was the 3rd highest attended in the country. By any measure, it was a success. The earlier regional at UM was also one of the highest attended in the country. Had these events been held at MSU, I am certain that the numbers would have been just as good or possibly even better. College baseball is alive and well in the state of MS, despite the henpeckers.

Po Monk,

Ive got to ask you a question. Do you have a fold up wallet size soap box that you carry around with you at all times. Anytime someone makes a comment about old myth we (being everyone on this board) can count on a 200 word preaching about how its all abunch of crap. Then the last few sentences we can always count on a stab at State. ex. (if these events had been held at MSU.........) Sometimes you have valid points, but damn after an three paragraphs of ole miss spew, I get tired of reading the crap!!

Everybody knows if you have a little one stay away from the students. If you don't want to hear trash talkin stay away from the students. Every stadium in college sports has some obnoxious fans.

Hey Crackhead, what an ugly thing to say. I'm sorry that my posts irritate you ---- all the big words and all must be tough to understand---- but, I have a suggestion ------ DON'T READ THEM.

Po,

It was a yes or no question?

Yes, I have the ACME fold up soap box wallet model 12-b.

or,

No, I am this passionate about Ole Miss, by the way who has dominated everyone since the day of time!!!!!!!!!!

i didn't get that from his post crackhead.....as a MSU alum and someone who has spent a lot of time at both places i agree with you 100% Po Monkey

Thanks for the backup, hillhunter.

Crackhead, my comments were not made in a vacuum. No, I do not go off on a rant anytime someone posts something remotely negative about UM. Just look at GH22s posts, which approx. 90% of are negative to Ole Miss , and you will only occasionally find a few responsive posts from me (mainly just to pick back at Jeff in a friendly way), and rarely over a paragraph or two.

To connect the dots for you. First, GH22 hates UM ----I've met Jeff, and I like him, but he still has this admitted sophomoric hate for UM ---he'll probably grow out of it by the time he is 30, but I'm not certain --- he may be a lost cause He posted the letter to the editor because it was negative toward UM. So, when I responded, I tried to relate the issue to not just UM, but how it might affect MSU as well, to drive my point home.(It is my understanding that there is an effort afoot by Templeton to eliminate or dramatically tone down/change the Left Field Lounge ---I don't know who is fueling that effort, but I suspect a PC agenda).

Second, this is an issue that I feel strongly about. There are only a few fun sports traditions left at both MSU and UM, and it seems that a few holy rollers are bound and determined to take them away from us. College baseball is the backdrop for some of these traditions ---a relatively new one at UM, and a much older one at MSU ----- both include great SEC baseball, outfields, relaxing, BBQ, beer, and some enthusiastic fan support. And each is done or allowed in such a way as to include and preserve a family environment in other areas of the stadium for those that desire such and want to take the little guppies to see the action. My point is that there should be room for everyone. And that exists now, apparently to the chagrine of a few disgruntled sorts who write letters to the editor complaining that they got their feelings hurt by some students being ....students. These folks think the entire stadium should be a glorified romper room.

Third, the original complaint, expressed through a controversial letter to the editor by a pregnant lady ( a UM/UT alum now living in Texas) attending the UM/Texas super regional, started all this. She and her husband, a Texas alum/fan, each clad in Texas garb and he with a Texas cap, went to the right field area to sit/stand, among the UM students. Predictably, he was heckled to some extent. What followed was her stinging letter to the editor about the student's behavior. And my point: there was 4/5 of the stadium where she and her husband could have sat where they would not have been bothered by any rowdy students. She was 8 months pregnant and the temp that day was 90 + degrees. Why they did not buy their tickets through the Texas allotment (they sent tickets back) and sit with other Texas fans, or why they chose to sit/stand in right field with the students, especially in light of their sensitivity, is beyond baffling. As I said, some folks just like to complain. And some, like Dr. Ley , the author of the second letter to the editor, have an agenda.

I hope that explains things for you a little clearer. I did not intend to make a barb at or slam MSU in the process. If my post offended you in some way, then this board may not be the right place for you. After all, you would not want to get caught up in a pissing match between GH22 and Rebelyelp---they hold nothing back. And I'm not really sure how you would make it through many contests between UM-MSU, MSU-Bama, etc. with your extreme sensitivity.

Well, this old MSU fart agrees with both sides on this one. Hard to lose and argument that way!

I'm all for tradition! I had more than a few great afternoons in the outfield when it was just Dudy Noble. I will fight to keep those traditions and my right to yell a heart-felt "Go to Hell, Ole Miss" while ringing my cowbell ( I still think Shug Jordan was a jack-ass)! But, at the same time I'm telling my Ole Miss buddies (my life-time best friend is a Rebel) to go to Hell, I'm passing them the bottle for another shot.

What I can't stomach is the vitriolic spew I hear coming from some of the most juvenile (behavior, not age) of both Rebel and Bulldog ilk. It crosses the line of school spirit and, instead, becomes a "Hey, look at me, I'm a real Bulldog (insert Rebel) and I hate you!" exercise in narcisistic overcompensation for a small penis!

I will always hold that you can be intensely loyal and school-spirited without being out-of-control and mean-spirited. I would truly love to see some civility brought back into the rivalries of college athletics.

Sorry if this has too many big words for my Rebel friends and GH22! And if you don't agree with me, I'll kill you with my freaking cow-bell!

Heck the worst students I knew at ole miss were from texas sent to Oxford because they could not get in at Texas.

Crow, did you think any of my posts stated anything that would be considered "vitriolic spew "? Do any of the rest of you think this? If so, then please explain. I try very hard NOT to make posts that are hateful, because I feel no hate toward MSU. It is a good school, one from MS, supported by my tax dollars, and the favorite school and alma mater of many of my friends.

If I crossed the line somewhere, then I am sorry.

Maybe I should just stop posting about MSU/UM at all ?----- that used to be my MO before this forum developed and was moderated by a self-admitted MSU homer. I thought I was bringing a little good-natured balance to the board. If that in fact is not how it is being taken, then I will cease and desist. I do not seek to offend anyone. After all, its just college sports -----not life and death like duck hunting.

I've noticed that both Ole Piss and M$U fans have some of the worst language in the SEC.

Shame on all of you potty mouths!

weedmaster

the worst cussing i ever heard was at a bamer game back in the late 90's... during the dubose era.. j.j. johnson ran for a school record 239 yards on the tide.. i got free tickets to the game off some bama fans windshiled wiper.. then when i got to the ticket gate another bamer fan gave me free up-grade tickets in the loewr level....

lord help i've never heard such cussing by fans..

f'boms were used that day as nouns, perpistions, adjectives, adverbs, dangling modifiers and so and so and so on....