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Rebels turn into SEC joke

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:07 am
by webbmaster
Ouch!


Rebels turn into SEC joke
Wednesday, October 12, 2005
Neal McCready
Mobile Register

Because David Cutcliffe is a University of Alabama alumnus, there will be criticism this week for Ole Miss firing its former head football coach.

No. 6 Alabama should maul the Rebels Saturday, and many will say that things aren't so rosy in Oxford these days without Cutcliffe.

While it's true the Ole Miss program is a mess, most have the Cutcliffe saga all wrong. Cutcliffe, who coached for six seasons in Oxford and led the Rebels to five winning seasons, basically fired himself last November when he refused to acquiesce to his superiors' requests for him to make changes to his coaching staff in the wake of a 4-7 season and several sub-par recruiting campaigns.

Cutcliffe and athletics director Pete Boone never got along, and after Cutcliffe nearly bolted for Kentucky in December 2002, it was just a matter of time -- or a few embarrassing losses in the post-Eli Manning era -- before Cutcliffe was run out of Oxford.

Besides, even if Cutcliffe had survived the series of end-of-season meetings, he probably wouldn't have been on the sidelines Saturday when the Crimson Tide goes to Ole Miss to administer some payback to the Rebels, who beat Alabama at Vaught-Hemingway Stadium in 2001 and 2003. Cutcliffe accepted a post on Charlie Weis' staff at Notre Dame but had to resign after having heart bypass surgery in the spring.

Cutcliffe is back in Knoxville, Tenn., these days, working to get healthy and waiting for another opportunity to be a head coach. Cutcliffe is most certainly a class act, but he underachieved during much of his tenure at Ole Miss and left the program in shambles. While you're in Oxford over the weekend watching a national power dispose of a team that wouldn't win the Division I-AA title, check out the Rebels' roster. It has precious little SEC-caliber talent -- and that's Cutcliffe's fault.

If you're looking to criticize Ole Miss, it's not hard. Just look in the right place. Look at Cutcliffe's successor, former Southern Cal assistant Ed Orgeron, and put the microscope to the botched coaching search that ended with his hiring.

When Cutcliffe was let go, many Rebel fans believed the next coach had already been lined up. One prominent booster had initiated contact with Louisville coach Bobby Petrino, going so far as to discuss a financial package with Petrino's agent. Ole Miss contacted former Washington coach Rick Neuheisel, who wanted the job, but UM chancellor Dr. Robert Khayat put the kibosh on that, implying that the school wanted nothing to do with Neuheisel's baggage.

Neuheisel, now the quarterbacks coach with the Baltimore Ravens, would have been a perfect fit in Oxford. He would have been a sophisticated, creative guy in a town that fashions itself as sophisticated, upper-class and cutting edge.

Toward the end of the merry-go-round search, Ole Miss appeared to have then-San Francisco 49ers coach Dennis Erickson lined up. Several UM officials flew to Santa Clara, Calif., to meet with the former Miami and Oregon State coach. But he, too, was passed over.

In the meantime, qualified assistants such as LSU offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher and then-Auburn defensive coordinator Gene Chizik weren't given the time of day. Ole Miss officials said they wanted an experienced head coach and implied they wanted to make a high-profile hire.

One day after the Erickson meeting, however, they settled on Orgeron, who had never even been a coordinator, had plenty of personal baggage and had no profile of any significance in the Southeast. The hire, to say the least, was baffling.

Months later, the Rebels are 2-3, including losses to Vanderbilt and Wyoming, two assistants have been run off because of embarrassing alcohol-related offenses, there are various reports of behind-the-scenes turmoil on the team and rumors of chair-throwing and coaches fighting in pre-game meetings -- rumors that Orgeron, quarterback Micheal Spurlock and wide receiver Taye Biddle denied Monday.

In short, Ole Miss football has become the laughingstock of the league.

Throw in the blowout losses to teams such as Alabama, Auburn and LSU that are likely on the horizon and things could get even uglier very soon.

However, no one should blame Orgeron for taking a job that landed in his lap. It was an opportunity he had hoped for and he jumped at it. Further, no one can blame Orgeron for the losses that have happened or the blowouts that are yet to come. Bear Bryant couldn't win with the team he inherited.

Khayat justified Orgeron's hire by trumpeting his recruiting prowess. So Orgeron's judgment must wait until February. If he brings in a solid recruiting haul, he'll be viewed as eccentric but Rebel fans will tolerate the rebuilding process. If not, Orgeron's hiring will go down as one of the worst in the history of the SEC and the already low Ole Miss program will have suffered significant long-term damage.

None of that, however, has anything to do with Cutcliffe.

Contact Neal McCready at:

nmccready@mobileregister.com



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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:47 am
by Greenhead22
Bravo Bravo Bravo!!!

For once Neal McCready gets something right.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:17 am
by mottlet
There's no doubt that the the Rebs are this year's joke. We lost to Vandy. We lost to Wyoming. We had to play The Citadel for our offense to click. Arkansas isn't much better, but they didn't fire their coach and go find a new one. That'll come this off-season. State fans ought keep their mouths shut 'bout who is the REAL joke of the SEC, and I'm not talking about just this year.

I wasn't sure about the Orgeron hire. I'm still not. I wanted Neuheisel. I'm not the chancellor or the AD, or even a donor (unless you count tuition). So we got Orgeron. BUT, the one thing I was sure about, was that Cutcliffe had to go. This Reb team would have lost regardless of the coach. That is Cut's fault.

Orgeron knows what winning is. I don't believe it's an accident that he's been a part of winning programs. Can he do it as the head man? That question will not be answered this year. Let him try to go and get some talent. If we're still the joke in a couple seasons, let's go see if Neuheisel is still interested. :lol:

mottlet

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:53 pm
by crackhead
He11 who can't recruit to Miami and USC.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:30 pm
by Po Monkey Lounger
"who can't recruit to Miami and USC."

whoever was the head coach and staff at USC before Pete Carroll and Orgeron arrived :wink:

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:38 pm
by Po Monkey Lounger
Interesting. And IF the Rebs should win Sat., just what would that make the Tide?? :lol:

Shula might get a brick thrown through his window (ala Curry). :wink:

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:49 pm
by hotty toddy
So if the Rebels end this season only winning 3 games (AK and MSUck are a toss up) that make us the joke of the SEC. As well as a loss to Vandy makes them the joke, am I the only one that noticed that Vandy is an improved team this year. I have no excuse for the Whyoming game.

People might need to look around the state to find the school that has not won over 3 games a year in several years.

That is if they are looking for the joke in the SEC.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:53 pm
by mottlet
And IF the Rebs should win Sat


...then I'll be the one in some state of undress, reeking of sour mash, whooping like a wild Indian. Could be in the Grove, could be on the field, or could be gyrating wildly while perched on an upright.

mottlet

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:01 pm
by webbmaster
This is pretty funny considering the writer is an Ole Miss graduate.

As for Bama losing, if they do I will offer no excuses. I won't run and hide like the Razorback hack.

I will also assure you that it might be me throwing the bricks. :lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:15 pm
by Po Monkey Lounger
"then I'll be the one in some state of undress, reeking of sour mash, whooping like a wild Indian. Could be in the Grove, could be on the field, or could be gyrating wildly while perched on an upright. "

I was planning on doing that, win or lose. :lol: I am planning on going to the game Sat. dressed as Chickasaw Indian Chief Piamingo, in full war
dress, complete with Indian headdress and war paint. And you know what they say about Indians and whiskey. :lol:

We'll need some heavy medicine from the tribal medicine man to pull this one off. :wink:

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:16 pm
by Po Monkey Lounger
"the writer is an Ole Miss graduate. "

he is a traitor who should be publicy flogged :wink:

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:28 pm
by Po Monkey Lounger
"there are various reports of behind-the-scenes turmoil on the team and rumors of chair-throwing and coaches fighting in pre-game meetings "

"Reports" from whom I would ask? And if unsubstantiated, why include such in the article? It seems that every week there is another Orgeron related "rumor" floating around with no factual basis. And local and regional sports media appear to have no problem running stories containing such rumors. I have never seen this much fascination and obsession by the media with respect to a new head coach in the SEC ---especially one who has yet to win an SEC game.

IF and WHEN Coach O turns the program around at UM and wins big, it is going to be really, really funny to go back to all these articles written about him this year. There will be a LOT of crow being served with a heavy dose of mustard. I am relishing the thought of how good that is going to feel and how much fun I am going to have with it. Revenge is a dish best served cold. :twisted:

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:30 pm
by rebelduckaholic
All those chair throwin rumors are pretty comical you have to admit :lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:43 pm
by Po Monkey Lounger
yep, as are rumors that ANY of our assistant coaches would be "fighting" with Coach O :lol: :lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:47 pm
by rebelduckaholic
Forgot about that one. :lol: :roll: :lol: