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How much 13-13-13 for 1 acre of rye grass??????? Not what the bag says, but what yall think!
How much for 1 acre biologic????????

depends on the soil, but i use about 3 bags per acre where i hunt.

for optimal results, take soil sample only costs about 6 bucks and get your fertilizer and lime requirements for YOUR plot. Small price to pay for a green plot all year.

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Apply according to soil test or apply 400 pounds/acre 13-13-13 at planting time. In lieu of soil test, apply 1 to 2 tons/acre agricultural lime. Companion plants - crimson clover, winter peas or white clover.

Double R 2 wrote:Apply according to soil test or apply 400 pounds/acre 13-13-13 at planting time. In lieu of soil test, apply 1 to 2 tons/acre agricultural lime. Companion plants - crimson clover, winter peas or white clover.

So let me get this right....someone is saying 8-50 lb bags of trip 13, and 2000-4000 lbs of lime per acre??? 4000 lbs of lime would make it look like it snowed in august. Just how do they suppose I'm going to haul 4400 lbs of lime and triple 13 a half mile back in the woods???

Double R is right, the rule of thumb has always been to put a 1000 lbs and acre I believe. We always go to the local co-op and rent there buggy and use it 5 tons with the buggy usually just costs around $125. If you can get a tractor in there you can get the buggy in there. Alot cheaper than buying pellets.

Standard, rule-of-thumb recommendations. Lime is often called "poor man's fertilizer" because it alone will most-times improve soil fertility for much le$$ than fertilizer (especially if soil acidity precludes effecient fetrtilizer uptakes). For what sacked fertilizer and lime cost compared to bulk purchase, it'll look like it's snowed in hades before I'd suggest sacks over bulk.

I have never done a soil test and never had a problem growing wheat, ryegrass, clover , peas or turnips. Never had a problem with deer not keeping it mowed down. I've had the deer eating the johnsongrass that got fertilized.I have planted food plots from small kill zones to 3 acres. From the MS river bottoms on Kings Point Island to the Hills of OakRidge.I always put out 50 lbs triple 13 per 100 lbs of wheat or rye. Once the plot is up and growing I'll hit it right before a rain with some amonia nitrate. That is gona work and keep the growth sweet.

Dutch Dog wrote:

Double R 2 wrote:Apply according to soil test or apply 400 pounds/acre 13-13-13 at planting time. In lieu of soil test, apply 1 to 2 tons/acre agricultural lime. Companion plants - crimson clover, winter peas or white clover.

So let me get this right....someone is saying 8-50 lb bags of trip 13, and 2000-4000 lbs of lime per acre??? 4000 lbs of lime would make it look like it snowed in august. Just how do they suppose I'm going to haul 4400 lbs of lime and triple 13 a half mile back in the woods???

Not a big deal there Pal. Ramrod knows this kind of info. It is what the man does for a living to some degree.
We put 5 tons, Yep 10000 pounds of lime out Friday and Saturday this past weekend. We took care of Bozo's, Powerline, Pine Thicket and Bridge stand. Rented a hopper that carried 3 tons at a time. $67.00 per 2 tons.
Ended up with 22 Food Plots this year.
Lime is the ticket for soil quality. We'll be planting all Fields next Saturday and putting out 1500 pounds of triple 13. Winter peas, Rie, Rape, Keal, Wheat, White tail Inst. Clover, Oats.
Were not playing around this season. hehehe

I know there is a perfect way but I doo think some of this stuff is overkill. Do any of yall remember hunting when no one planted food plots???? I sure do! I am getting soem good info, I am gonna write everything down and see what works best and then alter next year if needed!

Xpress wrote:I know there is a perfect way but I doo think some of this stuff is overkill. Do any of yall remember hunting when no one planted food plots???? I sure do! I am getting soem good info, I am gonna write everything down and see what works best and then alter next year if needed!

Your right,
I do not hunt the food plots but I do enjoy having them around. It keeps the deer coming back to your area. It helps them to continue to keep quality food year round.
We did our first summer plots this year and the success was outstanding. Now that we have the soil in the right condition the summer plots will be many times better thus drawing deer for miles to the area.
I still find hunting the woods and thickets to my liking but food plots and summer feeding is a must in aquiring quailty deer year after year.

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Welcome to the forum Winston,

You should also know that ag lime is slow acting and will not produce fast results. Most soils have phosphorous and pottasium in the soil, but are not available due to acidity or alkalinity. Soil testing is the key or go buy a garden pH meter. Not very accurate, but will get you in the ball park. To give a comparison, an agricultural crop such as soybean may require an 0-60-90 for a given soil in a given year. This would require almost 700 lbs. of 13-13-13 to supply the K needed.