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3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:34 am
by THE BUCKMAN
Saw this on the news last night. little boy wandered into the garage where the Pit was chained up, and was malled (sp) to death.
Should charges be filed against owner?
Pure accident?
Dog put down? No?
Your thoughts?
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:39 am
by TODO
F a pit bull. I keep hearing oh mine is so sweet and would never hurt a fly . . . but you can find a story almost daily about a pit bull attack, some ending in circumstances such as this.
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:47 am
by hotty toddy
That is awful.
If it had been my child the dog would be no more.
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:51 am
by MudHog
That's a bad scenario.
Pit Bull or not, the child was loose wandering. Where were the parents when this happened? The child entered another persons home unattended and the dog itself was chained and restrained. Now if the dog was kept illegally (some cities have restrictions), then that's purely the owner. Every dog has the ability to maul a person, but pitbulls get the worst rep. for this though.
When I was a kid my family raised dobermans. My dob named Rocky Road Romero was VERY protective of me as a child. We had a 8' hurricane fence and had someone laid a hand on me, he would of likely cleared it. Anytime we were outside with for a family gathering he was right at the fence watching.
P.S. "Devil Dog" is not a pitbull, it's really a Doberman.

Hitler gave dobermans the nickname of Devil Dogs.
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:53 am
by cwink
I have been following the story also.. The dog should be put down. No if, ands, or butts about it..
I have 4 dogs, but no dog is worth the life of a child.. Part of this is the owners fault and part of it is the dogs fault.. Different breeds have different characteristics in behaviors.. Lots of breeds have the tendency to be mean spirited or bite (example my dacshund), but few have both the temperment to attack and the physical ability to kill a human.. The Pit bull falls into that category..
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:56 am
by MudHog
any large breed dog has the ability to kill a person. Whether it's a lab, doberman, great dane, german sheppard, pitbull, etc.
I'm not saying the pit shouldn't be put down and quite frankly it likely should be, but the breed of pitbulls will never leave. Pitbulls have their place and have their uses. Case in point, hog hunters use pitbulls as catch dogs. There's alot of hog hunters that hunt with dogs and they will always have pitbulls.
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:11 am
by jacksbuddy
cwinkler is right. I too have been watching this story in the news, and several things need to happen immediately -
1) The dog must be put down immediately as it is a viscious dog.
2) The dog owners must be legally banned from ever owning a pitt bull again. (They can't control it properly, therefore another method of protecting their property must be utilized. There are a lot of alternative methods still available.)
3) The teenage babysitters, and the parent, should be brought up on child endangerment and neglegence charges for not having a 3 yo toddler in bed before 9:00 p.m.
4) The City of Jackson Police Department must improve the firearms training for all police officers. If they are given a firearm, and are expected to use it, then by God they better be able to use it effectively. If they cannot kill a pitt bull that is CHAINED UP AND STILL ATTACKING THEIR FELLOW OFFICERS, then what good is having a sidearm? It ain't there for decoration.
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:16 am
by Deagle
I hate hearing stuff like this. I don't buy into the "my pit bull wouldn't hurt a fly" bullcrap. Thats like saying it would be alright for Jeffrey Dahmer to babysit for you. However, the dog can't really be blamed. It is doing what it was bred to do, fight and kill. I just hope the kid didn't suffer.
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:19 am
by torch
Wait, this dog was chained and restrained on its own property and this child wanders in (tresspass). DHS needs to imprison the parents of the child. When I was growing up a man raised Chows and we all knew they were mean, we avoided his fence line when playing outside.
Really what is a 3 year old doing alone?????? Where were its parents??? THats what I would like to know.
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:38 am
by pstone
I agree Torch, the people responsible for this child's death are not the dog owners, it's whoever was responsible for the child. If the child had been cared for properly, none of this would have happened. If a kid came in my yard, and climbed in my kennel, is it my fault if my dog hurts the kid? If the dog owners had the dog restricted, what else were they supposed to do?
Now, that being said, Pits should be heavily restricted. my uncle had one the "wouldn't hurt a fly" until she attacked him one night when he was taking her her food...They are bread to attack/fight, not to be someones pet. PERIOD.
torch wrote:Wait, this dog was chained and restrained on its own property and this child wanders in (tresspass). DHS needs to imprison the parents of the child. When I was growing up a man raised Chows and we all knew they were mean, we avoided his fence line when playing outside.
Really what is a 3 year old doing alone?????? Where were its parents??? THats what I would like to know.
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:38 am
by crackhead
torch wrote:
Really what is a 3 year old doing alone?????? Where were its parents??? THats what I would like to know.
Drinking a 40 and watching BET!
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:40 am
by Squealer
jacksbuddy wrote:cwinkler is right. I too have been watching this story in the news, and several things need to happen immediately -
1) The dog must be put down immediately as it is a viscious dog.
2) The dog owners must be charged with negligence and legally banned from ever owning a pitt bull again. (They can't care for it and train it properly, therefore they should not have one.)
3) The teenage babysitters should be brought up on child endangerment charges for not having a 3 yo toddler in bed before 9:00 p.m.
4) The City of Jackson Police Department must improve the firearms training for all police officers. If they are given a firearm, and are expected to use it, then by God they better be able to use it effectively. If they cannot kill a pitt bull that is CHAINED UP AND STILL ATTACKING THEIR FELLOW OFFICERS, then what good is having a sidearm? It ain't there for decoration.
They DID shoot at the dog several times but they only hit the dog once in the leg. The other bullets richoched (sp) off the concrete and into the side of the neighbor's house!!!

They, the JPD, need to be trained HOW to shoot their firearms. I agree, the dog should be put down immediately. He should have been euthanized on site in my opinion. But they should definitely not leave it locked up in a kennel suffering with a gunshot wound while they conduct an investigation. I mean, are they planning on questioning the dog, or what????

Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:00 pm
by @work
I read where the owner actually asked the police officers to kill the dog right after it happened but they did not.
Also read where the mother looked out and saw that some other kids were outside with her 3 year old and "assumed" he would be OK. There really were not any "babysitters".
Also, the father is in prison.
Why would you assume that your 3 yr old is being watched by a bunch of other kids and what was it doing out at 9pm.
The owner had it chained inside his carport due to several thefts that had occurred.
There are a lot of other factors that played a part in this kids death other than just the dog....not that I'm defending the dog.
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:11 pm
by udkm
As a mother of a 3 year old, very curious and adventurous little girl I have to say that ALL fingers must be pointed at the care taker of the 3 yr old!!! I don't let her out of my sight for a split second. There are so many dangers to a child. Dogs, child predators, cars driving down the road, open gates to swimming pools…
All breeds of dogs have different temperaments. Chows, Dobermans, rotweillers..the list goes on! So many factors determine the temperament..age and health of the dog, if it's been raised around children, if its been beaten or neglected. Who knows what the child may have been pulling on or doing to the dog. Even if the case was that the child was taunting the dog...some dogs would whimper and maybe nip but killing the child tells me this dog was vicious, to say the least.
I see no fault of the owner of the dog. They upheld their responsibility of having it tied up and in a garage, at that. The dog could have bee territorial and a good pet to them.
Re: 3 year old killed by Devil Dog
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:15 pm
by Jeff
First off lemme say all I know about this story is what I have read here. I am totally against pit bulls as pets anywhere near kids. HOWEVER, I don't think anything should be done to the dog or it's owner. Yes the dog did attack the child. This dog was CHAINED up in a garage!! The kid was somewhere he shouldn't have been. Any dog that is chained up is going to feel like they can be easily dominated. THerefore IMO they will be more likely to defend their space, I think any dog would probably defend their space, now I would say most wouldn't kill a child over their space, but I would imagine that there would be a heck of a lot of barking and biting with almost any breed.
I think most dogs will defend their home. This particular dog was doing just that. I say at worst require the dog to wear a muzzle in public and put the kids parents in jail they are the ones responsible for this unfortunate death.