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Postby Redhead » Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:31 pm

Got this in an email today and thought I would share it here.

Samuel Thompson wrote:

I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December.

I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution.

Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game. "But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue. Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. And we are in the Bible Belt. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna?

If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.

If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.

If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.

And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome...

"But what about the atheists?" is another argument. What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer. Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations.

Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us just to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying. God, help us. And if that last sentence offends you, well..........just sue me.

The silent majority has been silent too long.. it's time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard, that the vast majority don't care what they want.. it is time the majority rules!

It's time we tell them, you don't have to pray.. you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance, you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right.. but by golly you are no longer going to take our rights away .. we are fighting back.. and we WILL WIN! After all the God you have the right to denounce is on our side!

God bless us one and all, especially those who denounce Him...

God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all.....

God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God...

May 2003 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.

Keep looking up...... In God WE Trust
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Postby nomsduckhunter » Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:59 pm

good read....thanks
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Postby coonman » Tue Aug 26, 2003 3:55 pm

Amen Brother
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Postby Haymaker » Tue Aug 26, 2003 3:56 pm

I enjoyed reading that and hopefully the majority will start to tell those one or two folks that try to take our rights away to just shut up the MAJORITY RULES!!!

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Postby RebelYelp » Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:54 pm

i've been telling everybody this same exact stuff, especially since the whole flap in alabama with the judge. We have been silent to long, and it's high time we start standing up and quit being run over.

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Postby Delta Duck » Tue Aug 26, 2003 6:09 pm

Took the thoughts right out of my head.

The monument in Alabama, I would not wish bad things on someone else, but I hope the contractor that the state hires to remove it does not get another job after they remove it!
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Postby landscaper » Tue Aug 26, 2003 8:09 pm

Got alot of thoughts in my head that I can't quite pull together so I'll just type them randomly:

Christians have as much right as the next guy not to have our toes stepped on....
...I believe that the amount of that right is zero. If you step on my toes, I'll live. If I step on yours, quit your crying, toughen up, and move on. You'll live...

...but, as far as we know, Christ never forced his teaching on others...
...maybe neither should we...

...nor did He ever back down or appologize for the things that He had to say...
...NEITHER should we...

...if someone of another faith wanted to pray at an event, we would have to allow it or face discrimenation suits...
...is it not discrimination to try to censor Christian prayer?...

...hearing what you have to say or reading what you have to write probably won't change the person that I am if I don't want it to...
...by virtue of that statement, you can shutup and hear what I have to say. If you are so strong in your convictions you won't be changed either. Unless you want to be...

...oppostition to my beliefs makes me WANT to force them on others...
...I suppose the best I can do is offer them and leave the rest to God...



Oh, well. I'll never even scratch the surface here. I guess what I'm saying is that I agree with the writer of that email.
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Postby duckhuntalot » Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:23 am

AMEN!

The scarry part about the stone monument in AL (heard this from the Pastor last night at Revival) is the Ten Commandments are not the only thing inscribed there. The stone also contains the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

I hate to see this happening. However, fifteen years ago I can remember other hot issues that were a great concern to the Church. One instance, School Prayer. That one was a loss. Even if they had allowed a five minute moment of silence, I believe that could have prevented Jews, Muslims, etc. from being "offended" from a prayer.

I for one will say a prayer for our Society and Country today. Will you?
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Postby Delta Duck » Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:35 am

I see on the news they are going to remove the monument today. Maybe they will drop it on thier toes. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Delta Duck » Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:38 am

The one time you need Jesse Jackson that nocount liberal is nowhere tobe found. What did I expect.
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Postby lefthorn » Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:59 am

I agree whole heartledly!!!! Praise be to God!!!
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Postby webbmaster » Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:09 am

How would you guys feel if a Muslim was elected to the state supreme court and he wanted to display a monument with basic Muslim quotes containing "good and decent" principles?

Would you be offended?

Just curious. Not defending anything, just hypothetical situation.
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Postby peewee » Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:23 am

Webmaster, that could be a good argument if other religons rights were taken away too. Why do you suppose NYC schools were able to display Jewish and Muslim symbols throughout the schools last year but christian symbols were denied. Tell me why four christians got thrown out of Veterns Stadium recently for displaying a poster saying homosexuality is a sin, when there were homosexual posters everywhere. Explain this discrimination to me webmaster.

Also explain to me why the Washington monument that overlooks the nations capital hasn't been removed yet, It has inscribed on it Laus Deo "Praise be to God". Do you think maybe the ACLU doesn't say anything about all the monuments in Washington b/c it actually shows that our nations founders were religous men. Should we do away with the Lincoln Monument too, how about the National Archives in Washington, it carries the ten commandments. I wonder why CNN didn't mention this. Oops lets run over Arlington Cemetary too, there is a tomb there that quotes ""in honored glory an American soldier known but to God."

I could go on and on but I may offend someone since I am a proud christian. I aint forcing my beliefs as a christian on anyone, but I am commanded by my lord to tell about the great commision. So as a disciple of christ I will tell about the lord, whether or not someone chooses to go to hell afterwards is not my responsibility.
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Postby ScottS » Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:31 am

I wouldn't be offended. However, like RedHead posted originally...
If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.

If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.

If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.


We are a country made up of all religions but we are, by sheer numbers alone, a Christian country. I'm sure there are Christians in Israel and the other Middle Eastern countries that are Muslim. However, Muslim is the primary religion in that region simply because of sheer numbers. Just as Judaism is the primary religion in Israel simply because of sheer numbers.

Is not the term "God" in the ten commandments a reference to the father? The Muslim's have Allah and he is their father. Who says that they are not one and the same? Maybe someone got the names mixed up thousands of years ago and that is why two different names are used? :wink: What I'm trying to say is that all religions have a "father" in which they believe in. Since everyone agrees with the laws/commandments themselves, from a moral and ethical standpoint (they ARE the basis of all of our laws) at least, I guess I don't see where this is establishing a religion by having them where people can read them. I haven't seen a sign anywhere that said you had to bow before the monument, or do any sort of pledge allegiance to it in order to come and do business before the court. Did I miss something like that requirement?
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Postby mississippi_duc_htr » Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:59 pm

All that you see going on in this world today has already been fortold in the book of Revelation. Something to think about isnt it.
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