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Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:08 pm
by gandy1004
Can anyone tell me what is legal to hunt and what is not on yucatan? Hunted down there this past weekend and was told that I was hunting on private land but there were no posted or dmap signs visible and yes I know they don't have to have signs up but was just wondering where to hunt down there?

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:14 pm
by Faithful Retrievers
This was all I could find and it didnt say exactly.

According to Hernán Cortés' first letter (Cartas de relación) to the King of Spain, "Yucatan" represents a mis-naming of the land by his political antagonist Diego Velázquez. Cortés alleges that when Velazquez initially landed in Yucatan and asked about the name of the well-populated land, the indigenous people answered, "We don't understand your language." This was supposedly rendered as Yucatan by the Spaniards, who were unfamiliar with the phonetics of Mayan. However, there was political antagonism between Cortés and Velázquez, and this story evidently represents an attempt to defame Velázquez. The actual source of the name "Yucatan" is the Nahuatl (Aztec) word Yokatl?n, "place of richness."

The conquest of the Maya city-states took decades of long fighting.

African slaves brought by the Spanish also played a major role during Yucatan conquest, many of them declaring themselves free after a revolt led by Gaspar Yanga took place. A lot of the freed slaves settled in small towns called palenques and declared themselves independent. They also interacted with the indigenous Maya mixing both cultures in to what is now know as Zambo or Afro-indigenous ancestry.[citation needed]

Three Spanish expeditions explored the coastal areas of Yucatan from 1517 to 1519, but no major effort was made to conquer the country until 1527 when the first expedition under Francisco de Montejo landed with Spanish crown authority to conquer and colonize Yucatán. While the chiefs of some states quickly pledged allegiance to the Spanish crown, others waged war against the Spanish. Montejo was forced to retreat from Yucatán in 1528. He came back with a large force in 1531, briefly established a capital at Chichén Itzá, but was again driven from the land in 1535. Montejo turned over his rights to his son, also named Francisco, who invaded Yucatán with a large force in 1540. In 1542 the younger Montejo set up his capital in the Maya city of T'ho, which he renamed Mérida. The lord (also known as Tutul Xiu in the Yucatec Maya language) of Mani converted to Roman Catholicism and became an ally, which greatly assisted in the conquest of the rest of the peninsula. When the Spanish and Xiu defeated an army of the combined forces of the states of eastern Yucatán in 1546, the conquest was officially complete.

As of 1564 Yucatan became a captaincy general and from 1786 an intendencia, as a result of the Bourbon Reforms in the administration of the Indies.

The Spaniards were granted land and natives to work it for their benefit. Priests and monks set to bringing the population into the Roman Catholic Church. The first bishop of Yucatán, Diego de Landa, burned all the Maya books that could be located (saying "they contained nothing but the lies of the Devil") and suppressed any remnants of pagan beliefs with such vigour that he was for a time recalled to Spain to answer charges of improper harshness. The book he wrote (in the 1560s) in his defense, Relación de las cosas de Yucatán ("Relation of the Things of Yucatán"), is one of the single-most detailed accounts of Yucatán and of indigenous life from the time of the Conquest. Segments of this work would much later prove to be of instrumental value in the much-later decipherment of the pre-Columbian Maya writing system.

While the Maya embraced Christianity, many took it on as an addition to rather than a replacement of pre-Columbian beliefs, and some Christian Maya continue to offer prayers to the ancient agricultural deities in addition to the Christian God and saints.

There were periodic native revolts against Spanish rule, including a large one led by Can Ek in 1761.

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:26 pm
by LawDawg
I have heard that the coast line is good. cinnamon teal are common along with pintails. Get in touch with RR2, he can set you up.

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:33 pm
by bpinson1
Yeah, it's all posted...dammit boy.

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:57 pm
by gandy1004
For the dumb asses and smart asses I'm talking about lake yucatan on the ms river.

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:30 am
by quack fiend
Doesnt really matter now, as all the big ducks have left there. Scouted there today and didn't jump 40 ducks in the whole lake. I imagine it's one of those deals where you have to stay on the outside tree-line?

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:38 am
by mudsucker
gandy1004 wrote:Can anyone tell me what is legal to hunt and what is not on yucatan? Hunted down there this past weekend and was told that I was hunting on private land but there were no posted or dmap signs visible and yes I know they don't have to have signs up but was just wondering where to hunt down there?
Try the back dock at Jimmy Buffet's Margaritaville. Lots of those birds known as BOOBIES!

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:06 am
by DanP
Well if you were the guy way up in the willows on the north end of the island sunday morning, then yes you were trespassing.

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:09 am
by hntrpat1
DanP wrote:Well if you were the guy way up in the willows on the north end of the island sunday morning, then yes you were trespassing.

BUSTED!!!

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:29 pm
by Faithful Retrievers
All heck I had no idea you meant MS. You just go right ahead and hunt where ever you want out there. Those guys dont mind you hunting on their property, they are just bluffin. When they ask who sent ya tell them Hernán Cortés' king of Spain by god.

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:36 pm
by chevy01234
gandy1004 wrote:Can anyone tell me what is legal to hunt and what is not on yucatan? Hunted down there this past weekend and was told that I was hunting on private land but there were no posted or dmap signs visible and yes I know they don't have to have signs up but was just wondering where to hunt down there?


STAY HOME!!!!

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:40 pm
by quack_a_tack
You should really do some research, before you get into some trouble. My advise is to ask someone.

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:17 pm
by gandy1004
Well yep that was me along with 3 other boats who were not with me. If I was tresspassing why didn't someone come run me off or atleast come ask what I was doin. That was our first time to ever hunt yucatan and thought I was legal. I ask a game warden down there n he thought it was ok so we hunted it. Won't be going back though because it just sounds to complicated as to where u can hunt and not hunt. I kill way too many ducks up here to be venturing down there and get run off a public lake. We were just down a lake bruin for the weekend trying to get ready for a bass tourney and figured we would try it out.

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:27 pm
by BIG TIMBER
Well if you were the guy way up in the willows on the north end of the island sunday morning, then yes you were trespassing.


I beg to differ, sir!! You think those willows, that are in the lake are private property? I Think not!!!

Re: Hunting Yucatan?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:46 pm
by DanP
Well if AT can cut the timber, lease it out, and pay taxes on it I would bet its private property. Rights to hunt/fish navigable water only apply when you stay in the boat if I'm not mistaken.