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Help with duck ID...

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:04 pm
by ChadL03
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Picture showing size compared to mallard hen and grey duck hen.
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Picture showing width and coloration of bill compared to a mallard hen.

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:25 pm
by Blackduck
Pintail mallet hybrid that bred with a mallard again. 2nd generation maybe. Sure doesn't have much pintail in it

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:20 pm
by RedEyed Duck
Its an old hen mallard obviously :lol:

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:27 pm
by Dux Be Us
Mottled hen :?:

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:39 pm
by blgros1
Dux Be Us wrote:Mottled hen :?:
Negative ghost rider.

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:54 pm
by ChadL03
It came in with a drake gray duck so I'm leaning more towards a gadwall x mallard hybrid but it is tough to say being it is a hen. The bill looks like a gadwall hen except for the specks. Its my first hybrid either way and no I didn't kill it at Crossgates WMA :P

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:56 pm
by Alex
Why were you shooting hens ? A man of your stature doesnt do such things ! Pintail/Gadwall Hen is my guess.

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:19 pm
by Wingman
Very interesting.

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:34 am
by Bullet
Mallard x Gadwall. Bill looks to be of Gadwall descent. Also the speculum has white in it along with the black. Gads are only duck with white speculum. Thats my guess

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:12 am
by kris Schaumburg
you lying "illegitimate child", i thought you didn't know where any water was?

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:14 am
by Double R 2
Commonly refered to as "Wall Hanmger" in my household! Nice bird. Gadwal x mallard cross is a Brewer's Duck and I don't think that's the case. I'm guessing maybe gadwall x green-wing or pintail.

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:27 am
by arduckslayer
Bullet wrote:Mallard x Gadwall. Bill looks to be of Gadwall descent. Also the speculum has white in it along with the black. Gads are only duck with white speculum. Thats my guess
+1 on hen Mallard x Gadwall, or Brewer's duck. The hen feathers look like that of a hen mallard to me, and the green in the wing is the mix of blue from the mallard as well. If it were a pintail or greenwing hybrid, it would be smaller.

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:52 am
by ChadL03
Alex wrote:Why were you shooting hens ? A man of your stature doesnt do such things ! Pintail/Gadwall Hen is my guess.
Hens get in the way sometimes! That was just the hens for comparison. The rest were drakes :wink: I'm starting to lean a little more towards pintail x gadwall now that y'all brought that up. I'm guessing a mallard cross would have more blue in the speculum.
kris Schaumburg wrote:you lying "illegitimate child", i thought you didn't know where any water was?
Well it has rained a good bit since we last talked :D
Double R 2 wrote:Commonly refered to as "Wall Hanmger" in my household! Nice bird. Gadwal x mallard cross is a Brewer's Duck and I don't think that's the case. I'm guessing maybe gadwall x green-wing or pintail.
I am debating on whether or not to mount her. If it was a drake it would be a no brainer...

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:58 am
by arduckslayer
ChadL03 wrote:
Alex wrote:Why were you shooting hens ? A man of your stature doesnt do such things ! Pintail/Gadwall Hen is my guess.
Hens get in the way sometimes! That was just the hens for comparison. The rest were drakes :wink: I'm starting to lean a little more towards pintail x gadwall now that y'all brought that up. I'm guessing a mallard cross would have more blue in the speculum.
A if it were Pintail x Gadwall, it would be smaller. The green in the wings comes from the "mixing" of the Gadwall speculum and the Mallard speculum.

Re: Help with duck ID...

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:12 am
by kris Schaumburg
just from looking at male brewers duck (gad/mallard) pictures, most of them have green specs too, so i think whichever Pitt posted above me is probably correct. I don't see pintail at all when I look at it. A hen pinny has one of the most distinct feather patterns out of all the pudller hens, I think if there was pintail in it it would stick out like a sore thumb. I wish it was mixed with a pintail, I bet it would be beautiful. Very cool bird either way and we'll never know for sure.

I wonder how many of these get killed and simply strapped as either a hen grey or a hen mallard. My guess is a bunch based upon how many reports you see about the males getting shot. You'd be amazed at how many people can misidentify a full blooded grey.